Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-11-2017, 23:42

Originally Posted by Slaan

Enjoy ISOing me ^^. I'm off to play some witcher, will finish my reading up during the next day.

This is why Logic screwed up by calling you town.

He really wasn't thinking about you at all. If he was defending a townie he'd have had something more than the most generic stuff ever.

**Slaan** · 10-11-2017, 23:44

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

This is why Logic screwed up by calling you town.

He really wasn't thinking about you at all. If he was defending a townie he'd have had something more than the most generic stuff ever.

Wouldnt the same be true for his buddy? Not just throwing it out there for lulz and nothing else is bullshit no matter at who it's directed imo. He'd be more careful when it came to a mafia buddy than a towny imo... but then again I know I'm town.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-11-2017, 23:51

Originally Posted by Slaan

Wouldnt the same be true for his buddy? Not just throwing it out there for lulz and nothing else is bullshit no matter at who it's directed imo. He'd be more careful when it came to a mafia buddy than a towny imo... but then again I know I'm town.

This is phrased all wrong. It's a hypothetical when you know it's not hypothetical.

**Montmorency** · 10-11-2017, 23:53

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

This is why Logic screwed up by calling you town.

He really wasn't thinking about you at all. If he was defending a townie he'd have had something more than the most generic stuff ever.

Pizza, in your giant reads post on Slaan you said that scum Slaan would likely be hard bussing Logic D1.

But like I said what if it's mere distancing for final scum? Think about it, if GH and Zack are going in hard to defend Logic or at least divert the whole issue, what is the last scum doing?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-11-2017, 23:55

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Pizza, in your giant reads post on Slaan you said that scum Slaan would likely be hard bussing Logic D1.

But like I said what if it's mere distancing for final scum? Think about it, if GH and Zack are going in hard to defend Logic or at least divert the whole issue, what is the last scum doing?

Yeah and he admitted it's in his playbook and his posts all read like me when I'm scum, comfortable as hell just bantering with my own partners.

His massive JAQ post I struggled and forced to read townie because that's what I wanted the outcome to be. God dammit I forced the Slaan read because I wanted to be town with him.

**Montmorency** · 10-11-2017, 23:59

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Yeah and he admitted it's in his playbook and his posts all read like me when I'm scum, comfortable as hell just bantering with my own partners.

His massive JAQ post I struggled and forced to read townie because that's what I wanted the outcome to be. God dammit I forced the Slaan read because I wanted to be town with him.

That wasn't exactly me agreeing on whatever is happening now with Slaan, but...

If you're about to propose POE on Slaan, then I have to look at the whole D1, can't debate this either way cold.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-12-2017, 00:06

Originally Posted by Montmorency

That wasn't exactly me agreeing on whatever is happening now with Slaan, but...

If you're about to propose POE on Slaan, then I have to look at the whole D1, can't debate this either way cold.

Control+F Slaan and read the game from game start. Tell me how you feel about him when it's done.

Feelings are everything. You can talk yourself into anything.

**Fredwood** · 10-12-2017, 00:17

I don't know, it's an odd stance for him to take on a town Bart if he's scum. I mean I get Bart surviving to late game is good for him, but Bart isn't likely getting that far no matter what he throws out there. What does being right on a POE town read buy you?

I'll just put another thing that is bothering me is Monty in his list. He said he's a candidate for F5? The hell does that mean? It may just be my obliviousness to how many mislynches we have, just feels like a weird way to say I'm not looking to lynch him. Probably nitpicky though.

Anyway, I still think Chox or Bart is the way to go.

**Fredwood** · 10-12-2017, 00:21

Originally Posted by Fredwood

I don't know, it's an odd stance for him to take on a town Bart if he's scum. I mean I get Bart surviving to late game is good for him, but Bart isn't likely getting that far no matter what he throws out there. What does being right on a POE town read buy you?

I'll just put another thing that is bothering me is Monty in his list. He said he's a candidate for F5? The hell does that mean? It may just be my obliviousness to how many mislynches we have, just feels like a weird way to say I'm not looking to lynch him. Probably nitpicky though.

Anyway, I still think Chox or Bart is the way to go.

Or it could be my pocket paranoia conflicting me. SOMEONE AGREED WITH ME I MUST BE WRONG AND BEING MANIPULATED.

**Slaan** · 10-12-2017, 00:48

Oh boy, fun

Originally Posted by Fredwood

Dunno, process maybe, I had a number of problems with it (Besides me balking at being in POE). When doing a re-read you should have probably waited until you were done with the reread to post your thoughts because right now it looksinconsistent with what you've said to this point.

It was nearing end of night and I legit thought there is a real chance of me dying as (at the time) I thougth I was the only one besides pizza doing work... Monty came in later and added on as well but other than that I thought 'well mafia isnt going to kill pizza, pizza is most likely protected...' so I figured I'd get everything I read until then out in the open.

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

This is phrased all wrong. It's a hypothetical when you know it's not hypothetical.

I argued it from your PoV. I know I'm town, you don't know.

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

Forcing the town read against what the tell should be. Bantering with Zack and GH, first defending Logic then bussing him when it's clear I am never letting go and he could be a wagon. Passive aggression, the whole tell I used on Logic not being applied to Slaan because I've never played with Slaan and I wanted him to be town.

I'm still town and you are going in tinfoil territory. I bantered with everyone that was around when I was, Zack just was around all the time and with GH I had played a game recently. Can't defend the Logic push from me, couldve certainly come from scum me.. didnt but it could. And I'm mostly passive agressive I think, being plain is boring.

Originally Posted by Fredwood

I don't know, it's an odd stance for him to take on a town Bart if he's scum. I mean I get Bart surviving to late game is good for him, but Bart isn't likely getting that far no matter what he throws out there. What does being right on a POE town read buy you?

I'll just put another thing that is bothering me is Monty in his list. He said he's a candidate for F5? The hell does that mean? It may just be my obliviousness to how many mislynches we have, just feels like a weird way to say I'm not looking to lynch him. Probably nitpicky though.

Anyway, I still think Chox or Bart is the way to go.

Yea this F5 was more or less randomly put in there. Wanted to write F3 but realised I'd be probably down lynching him even before that if the rest of my townies are still around so I put it as F5... I calculated later that we have 4-5 lynches left (10 ppl... but maybe scum has a vig still since town had one and holstered it so far. I know I would as mafia), know I'm failry certain its 4 and I don't think its likely that Monty will ever slip in there. But then again who knows, apparently I'm an option now ^^

**Fredwood** · 10-12-2017, 01:04

Originally Posted by Slaan

It was nearing end of night and I legit thought there is a real chance of me dying as (at the time) I thougth I was the only one besides pizza doing work... Monty came in later and added on as well but other than that I thought 'well mafia isnt going to kill pizza, pizza is most likely protected...' so I figured I'd get everything I read until then out in the open.

Yea this F5 was more or less randomly put in there. Wanted to write F3 but realised I'd be probably down lynching him even before that if the rest of my townies are still around so I put it as F5... I calculated later that we have 4-5 lynches left (10 ppl... but maybe scum has a vig still since town had one and holstered it so far. I know I would as mafia), know I'm failry certain its 4 and I don't think its likely that Monty will ever slip in there. But then again who knows, apparently I'm an option now ^^

"Work" is funny word. I guess it's only work if you announce it to the thread that you're working. There hasn't been much heavy lifting by anyone since Night 1. Once GH flipped scum it was only a matter of time before Zack got dealt with. Most of the activity since then has been reinforcing people's preexisting reads, until now that is.

The second part, i don't even get it. So you're saying Monty is a top 5 town read but you'd lynch him before then?

**Montmorency** · 10-12-2017, 01:12

Originally Posted by Slaan

Yea this F5 was more or less randomly put in there. Wanted to write F3 but realised I'd be probably down lynching him even before that if the rest of my townies are still around so I put it as F5... I calculated later that we have 4-5 lynches left (10 ppl... but maybe scum has a vig still since town had one and holstered it so far. I know I would as mafia), know I'm failry certain its 4 and I don't think its likely that Monty will ever slip in there. But then again who knows, apparently I'm an option now ^^

Wait, just a few things to correct while I'm sorting out this storm.

10-8-6-4 means 4 lynchs including today. And town vig didn't holster, Pizza just killed Zack! And no one is counterclaiming...

Going by DP's claim, we have a gifter role.