Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

**Montmorency** · 10-12-2017, 03:09

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

He was not solo at the time. He had teammates, or did we kill them so fast you forgot? :P

The answer to your question is, the same reason they claim cop sometimes. To survive a lynch (even if only one lynch) and then use the doctor as an excuse as to why they still live.

But this game don't have a cop. So he wasn't gonna crumb cop, right. So he crumbed vig instead, anticipating the game had one.

They have only very limited use out of claiming doctor. Doctors always have to die. If he can claim vig at the critical moment, he can draw a lynch away from someone and onto someone else. Particularly, the town vigilante, if they suspect the game has one.

With one death? I don't think so.

They were not lock scum at the time. He was still arguing until Zack flipped that Zack was town, for example. Many people still had skeptical face.

All of those plans got shot to hell when Zack did.

OK, as I further consider this, Pizza, please tell me you realize that you look a lot like D3 Pizza in Visor's small game?

Are we still reading Slaan D1 or does the whole case ride on the proposed fake vig claim?

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-12-2017, 03:10

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Someone other than Pizza explain why Slaan was claiming D2 rather than idly speculating, why the specific fact of suggesting a town vig and a mafia vig on top of mafia NK is a tell given the events of D2, N2, D3, N3, and how any variation of this could have been a plausible strategy following the events of D1.

When 1 of your buddies is dead and 2 look like they're hanging, he was defending Zack on day 2 and prepping a vig claim for day 2 to save GH.

He doesn't have a more plausible strategy other than waiting to be the only scumbag left and soloing the game.

This was Slaan's way of upsetting the apple cart and getting non-GH and non-Zack deaths, but GH was not save-able.

And then when Zack died, that gambit had to be abandoned and buried so no one would remember it.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-12-2017, 03:11

Originally Posted by Montmorency

Are we still reading Slaan D1 or does the whole case ride on the proposed fake vig claim?

If you think he's vanilla townie, you think he was crumbing a shot on choxorn while suggesting the mafia have 2 kills.

Okay, believe that. I don't.

**Askthepizzaguy** · 10-12-2017, 03:13

Monty I wouldn't have even found the post if it weren't for you asking about his crumbing.

Thank you.

**Dp101** · 10-12-2017, 03:24

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

I still think there is a doctor, a full doctor, because a strongman killer makes no sense against a gift giver / inventor role that will likely give out 1 doctor protection.

It's possible the strongman is just to counter the inventor's doc gift, but that makes such a role for town really really weak.

A one shot doctor is super weak anyway. It's highly unlikely to make any impact on a game.

Strongman only makes sense to counter a full doc.

Completely missed this earlier, sorry for being repetitive in my doubts.

**Montmorency** · 10-12-2017, 03:25

Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy

When 1 of your buddies is dead and 2 look like they're hanging, he was defending Zack on day 2 and prepping a vig claim for day 2 to save GH.

He doesn't have a more plausible strategy other than waiting to be the only scumbag left and soloing the game.

This was Slaan's way of upsetting the apple cart and getting non-GH and non-Zack deaths, but GH was not save-able.

And then when Zack died, that gambit had to be abandoned and buried so no one would remember it.

What I present below is evidence that if there was a plan to save GH, it was never implemented in any stage. During N1, Slaan said he would always lynch GH over Chox D2:

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