Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

I guess the first 72 hours are going to be boring until we keep repeating ourselves about how we're going to lynch Logic, I don't think I've ever seen such a consensus Day 1.

Bart's entrance was sloppy, but I don't think as sloppy as Rein's.

Otherwise I caught up and most of it was Pizza's spam posts, the only other thing is I think I put Slaan solidly at the top of my Town pile. Zack hasn't looked as strong during this catchup, but a part of that may be him just being frustrated and bickering with Pizza and Bart. His assessment of Bart's meta is interesting.

I will address the CSargo thing, I wasn't using his last game as a baseline for his read, I was referring specifically to how he defended himself. His responses to pressure have literally been "cool" or a version of "you got me". In that game whenever it came up Csargo is scum he was more playful and snarky. I'm not talking about his activity, or content outside of his reaction to pressure, which I think it's fair to think for it to be consistent no matter the situation. Still in the end I said I didn't think it was a fair baseline for comparison anyway, so DON'T LECTURE ME.

Maybe NAI, but looks like a good process.

Fredwood has his own reads and he's moving at his own pace. He's not on board with the Zack or Logic stuff but he actually encouraged someone to lynch both just now. The guy he's voting, in fact.

I've been busier and don't actually want to keep up that rate of activity

I did that in the one game with mtgs on MU that was 72/24. It was exhausting and miserable. Can't go hard in the paint 72 hours straight, it's not healthy for me.

Zack's response to Fredwood's mention of his dropping activity / wim

I was more talking about your seeming annoyed by Bart and Pizza which did mess with the flow and content you had earlier. I'm not demanding any type of activity, I don't think I've posted 10 times. Still high up in my town, was just explaining why I'd put Slaan ahead of you now in his own tier.

See, Fredwood doesn't have to be lynching scums for posts like this to clear him.

This is bananas.

FINALLY, a dissenting opinion about Logic.

Essentially his one reason not to push on Logic. Seemed too easy, wagon was too popular. Fredwood was chasing his own leads.

It's bad for the health of the game and a LOT more valuable if the discussion continues.

Look at how much we found when we didn't just mega-wagon Logic. The dissent and continued drama and unsure outcome made all the other scums catchable.

Don't create enormouswagons, even on scum. It's bad for the game and bad for town. You can do better than lynch 1 scum. Lynch 1 scum and find their buddies.

what am i, chopped liver

I mean, how many times does someone call a naturally suspicious looking person a wolf 1/3 into d1, literally almost the entire game says "sure bud" and votes him, and they actually flip wolf?

Zack's response to Fredwood.

I thought Reinoe's entrance was fine. Why didn't you like it?

GH's response to Fredwood.

No, you're at least Corned Beef. I thought your logic stance was not as strong as a scum read, but were willing to lynch. GH is the first person to call Logic not mafia.

If it's two, then cool



More victory dances.

LOL

Maybe it wasn't his entrance, but it's the first time I noticed him, so I misspoke. My issue was his first content post, and then further his DP post.

His Logic scum read and somewhat associative read with Zack but pushing Zack before Logic.

He said independently that he has a scum read on Zack, buuuuut, the read he gave was inaccurate, he accused him of OMGUS when Zack did as much picking at people town reading him as he dis people scum reading him. That and his DP post felt forced AF, and overly long, when he didn't mention him before.

I can be talked down from a ledge on him, I just don't really have a stronger inclination to go to at this moment. The Logic thing was bothering me because it felt like an overwhelming damnation of the poor guy.

YES.

Fred why am I your top town read?

Started with your GH joke, I liked you questioning of Pizza during his catchup. Also the sass at Zack during this time. It feels like you're keeping the thread in check and I like the tone. Considering I only have like two town leans in this game so far, you're the best of two, so take that as you will.

Pretty good post considering Zack's flip. Depth in this read.

As a recipient of Barto's unique version of the welcoming committee and me getting a bug in my bonnet about it, he does feel different. I feel a demonstrable difference between Bart in Xcom as opposed to Logic in XCom. Unfortunately most of Logic's play has been off the back foot so even if I did sense a change in playstyle.

I agree with Monty in the sense that Logic feels like the "correct" lynch today, but illogical me would like to vote Bart here.

Anyway fatigue etc etc etc neither have been here defending themselves etc etc etc.

This is hardly arguing against the Logic lynch, it's even supportive. This is a bad position to put yourself in if you're a wolf and are not okay with Logic being dead.

Where is the "let's lynch Barto today, for these reasons. Put him in contention with Logic". Etc.

Nonexistent. He's just solving on his own.

Basically yeah, I'm willing to vote either here, but I think I'm leaning Logic (unfortunately)

In your experience, how often has the consensus lynch choice halfway through a D1 been correct?

Trying to get support for some non-logic lynch. Fredwood isn't really on the fence, but he's not whole hog on Logic, so he should be "gettable" and persuadable to push elsewhere mebbe.

And what do you mean "unfortunately?" If you're town you're not hemmed into any particular read here, you get to say what you want.

Sensing weak post, attackable at least?

this post feels like a wolf prepping for a wolf flip

Zack joins the attack as well.

Winston, thoughts on Fred's "unfortunately"?

Attackable.

Zack and GH both looking for attackable things at this stage of the game. They go for Monty, Fred, and dp at various times.

"attackable" meaning attackable townies.

We are done here.

Unfortunately.