Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Slaan]

It is still like 80 percent not counting turbos, iirc.

But the list of games as scum is probably 4 times that amount by now.

Hmmm, your overall winrate is <50%, if you have such a high scum winrate then your townwinrate must be around 40-45%... then I wonder if we read you town here why would we listen to your reads?

[Fredwood]

Hmmm, your overall winrate is <50%, if you have such a high scum winrate then your townwinrate must be around 40-45%... then I wonder if we read you town here why would we listen to your reads?

Cus people don't trust him as town and lynch him early.

[Slaan]

Cus people don't trust him as town and lynch him early.

So him still living here...

[Montmorency]

Cus people don't trust him as town and lynch him early.

Survival rate is separate from win rate.

Hmmm, your overall winrate is <50%, if you have such a high scum winrate then your townwinrate must be around 40-45%... then I wonder if we read you town here why would we listen to your reads?

It's a bit like Dragonball Z: one day your power level is over 9000, the next it's over 9 billion and the whole universe is going to die.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Hmmm, your overall winrate is <50%, if you have such a high scum winrate then your townwinrate must be around 40-45%... then I wonder if we read you town here why would we listen to your reads?

Undermining credibility, a form of passive aggression.

Mate in one, Slaan?

[Dp101]

Undermining credibility, a form of passive aggression.

Mate in one, Slaan?

I saw it as a joke, and nothing more. Don't think he was actually trying to undermine you.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I saw it as a joke, and nothing more. Don't think he was actually trying to undermine you.

DP-1 Kenobi, this time, we do it together.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Slaancellor Paalpatine, Sith Lords are our speciality.

[Slaan]

From the dark site turn you must

[Askthepizzaguy]

From the dark site turn you must

The dark side surrounds the Slaancellor. I sense a plot to destroy the Town circle.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I'm not letting go of Master Xiahou. His fate will be the same as ours.

[Slaan]

Undermining credibility, a form of passive aggression.

Mate in one, Slaan?

Really? How could this not be seen as a joke?

:p

[Slaan]

Good ninja post dp ^^

[Askthepizzaguy]

Good ninja post dp ^^

And pocketing Dp, btw.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Slaan, a big issue I have with your defense is that it's a ton of self-meta.

You'd never crumb a vig as scum vig. Okay, that's plausible. You reacted like I had two heads to that. Probably a bridge too far on my tinfoil.

But, for a lot of other things, your defense has been "I'd never do that" and it's appeared something like three times by now to several different lines of attack.

At a certain point it's just so much WIFOM.

[Slaan]

Slaan, a big issue I have with your defense is that it's a ton of self-meta.

You'd never crumb a vig as scum vig. Okay, that's plausible. You reacted like I had two heads to that. Probably a bridge too far on my tinfoil.

But, for a lot of other things, your defense has been "I'd never do that" and it's appeared something like three times by now to several different lines of attack.

At a certain point it's just so much WIFOM.

Well what other defence do I have. It's not like the points brought up are wrong, they are facts (like Winston). I agree that it looks odd and if I were in your shoes I'd probably also look at this and think its sus. There is no logic reason for the Winston thing for example, I didnt 'decide' to forget I had put him in town for a very short time before he got NK'd since it was a non issue after he NK'd and I didnt have to look at him. I didnt look at him at all this game which is why I had him as null until pizza's case which read good enough and since at the time pizzas other reads matched with mine I figured 'yea sure he can be town'... But since I didnt get there myself it wasnt in my mind.

The Monty thing I actually find a bit funny. Someone said to me during D1 that Monty would be player that would possibly the hardest to read... and they were correct. I'm not a big fan of how I flip flop about him but idk what else to do with him. I can't in good conscience just town read him and then ignore when I see smth scummy... same the other way around. Same thing happened with a few other ppl like Barto too I think.

If I have to get lynched for that than so be it, can't change it. I can't clear myself of that, the only I can do is tell you that Xia is most likely the last scum and hope you'll go there after you lynch me :).

[Fredwood]

Well what other defence do I have. It's not like the points brought up are wrong, they are facts (like Winston). I agree that it looks odd and if I were in your shoes I'd probably also look at this and think its sus. There is no logic reason for the Winston thing for example, I didnt 'decide' to forget I had put him in town for a very short time before he got NK'd since it was a non issue after he NK'd and I didnt have to look at him. I didnt look at him at all this game which is why I had him as null until pizza's case which read good enough and since at the time pizzas other reads matched with mine I figured 'yea sure he can be town'... But since I didnt get there myself it wasnt in my mind.

The Monty thing I actually find a bit funny. Someone said to me during D1 that Monty would be player that would possibly the hardest to read... and they were correct. I'm not a big fan of how I flip flop about him but idk what else to do with him. I can't in good conscience just town read him and then ignore when I see smth scummy... same the other way around. Same thing happened with a few other ppl like Barto too I think.

If I have to get lynched for that than so be it, can't change it. I can't clear myself of that, the only I can do is tell you that Xia is most likely the last scum and hope you'll go there after you lynch me :).

The Monty issue is that you jump on him, then never really mention him as a possibility ever again, in fact you push him way up your reads list, post GH and Zack flip.

If I'm town, and I suss the fuck out of Monty that hard, regardless of if Monty is town or not, I want it addressed at some point. The leaving it lie is what makes me feel it's more likely the interaction is scum SLaan jumping on an attackable town Monty post rather then Town Slaan catching a scummy Monty post.

[Askthepizzaguy]

If I have to get lynched for that than so be it, can't change it. I can't clear myself of that, the only I can do is tell you that Xia is most likely the last scum and hope you'll go there after you lynch me :).

If it were me, I'd erase everything I've done all game and shake my brain like an etch a sketch in final 4.

But I still have issues voting Xiahou that day. I guess if I somehow made it there (why?) with dp (why?) and fred (why?).

That's about it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Your game is impressive nonetheless and Csargo's is... suspect.

But the bit about Csargo not wanting to give a specific reason why Zack is scummy was a town point I was having trouble ignoring.

I keep going back and forth on which one of you two looks more likely.

I see arguments for why are you not a scum, but I'm not seeing the townieness except as effort and dedication to the game.

At a certain point, that's not enough, versus Xiahou's actual pressing on the wolves who are the most likely to influence the game, while you defended Zack and were basically forced to push GH.

[Slaan]

Your game is impressive nonetheless and Csargo's is... suspect.

But the bit about Csargo not wanting to give a specific reason why Zack is scummy was a town point I was having trouble ignoring.

I keep going back and forth on which one of you two looks more likely.

I see arguments for why are you not a scum, but I'm not seeing the townieness except as effort and dedication to the game.

At a certain point, that's not enough, versus Xiahou's actual pressing on the wolves who are the most likely to influence the game, while you defended Zack and were basically forced to push GH.

Oh cmon, I was all in favor of the GH lynch just wanted to see what and if he'd type some more. Hell I started sussing GH on D1 in relation to a Logic mafia flip, don't take this from me. I'm sad I didnt get on Zack sure but GH was mine as much as anyone elses imo :(

[Askthepizzaguy]

Oh cmon, I was all in favor of the GH lynch just wanted to see what and if he'd type some more. Hell I started sussing GH on D1 in relation to a Logic mafia flip, don't take this from me. I'm sad I didnt get on Zack sure but GH was mine as much as anyone elses imo :(

Did you say something more than "if Logic flips mafia, GH looks bad"?

Did you push him after that in any way?

Or did you agree with him that dp101 looked bad for the cfd, after logic flipped?

That's where you don't get credit, Slaan.