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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaan View Post
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    The dark side surrounds the Slaancellor. I sense a plot to destroy the Town circle.
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    I'm not letting go of Master Xiahou. His fate will be the same as ours.
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    Fred, I don't remember what you said about Slaan's reads vanishing. Are you sure they weren't just progression the opposite way?

    Can you find that for me?
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    Fred, I don't remember what you said about Slaan's reads vanishing. Are you sure they weren't just progression the opposite way?

    Can you find that for me?
    What do you mean? I confronted him about his inconsistency and his defense was him saying on Winston he was sheeping you and forgot, and with me he was misusing the term Lock clear, and with Monty...I don't really know what he's claimed, it felt like a non-answer.

    The thing is I guess they all could possibly true together but just feels unlikely for a player of his ilk. So if there's a plausible scenario it comes down to tone under pressure, and aside from his post against you, his posts against me have felt relatively good. So I'm not sure what to do with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fredwood View Post
    What do you mean? I confronted him about his inconsistency and his defense was him saying on Winston he was sheeping you and forgot, and with me he was misusing the term Lock clear, and with Monty...I don't really know what he's claimed, it felt like a non-answer.

    The thing is I guess they all could possibly true together but just feels unlikely for a player of his ilk. So if there's a plausible scenario it comes down to tone under pressure, and aside from his post against you, his posts against me have felt relatively good. So I'm not sure what to do with it.
    If it were me in his shoes, I'd be having the time of my life.

    Don't assume too much about how he'd be feeling as scum. Everyone has been suggesting scums have to be hiding after the collapse, they gotta be like Cuth or Xia and just afraid to show their faces.

    How does that win, if they weren't lock town before the collapse?

    And if that assumption doesn't hold true for that specific player, then it's a bad read.

    I'll go looking.
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    The bulk of my case was based on the passive aggression post, bantering with the dead scums, and arguments against Zack being scum. Plus tinfoils about crumbs that didn't pan out.

    I didn't think the reads progression was AI or I didn't take it into account, since he bussed a couple times.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    The bulk of my case was based on the passive aggression post, bantering with the dead scums, and arguments against Zack being scum. Plus tinfoils about crumbs that didn't pan out.

    I didn't think the reads progression was AI or I didn't take it into account, since he bussed a couple times.
    The only progression I have an issue with is Monty

    With Winston, when he defended himself against you in his flowery post, he said as scum he wouldn't have killed Winston cus he had a null read on him, when he had Winston as top tier town N1. It gets into WiFOM because why does scum just forget things like that, but why would town basically fabricate a read that they forget later.

    With me it just felt odd that he lock cleared me and then put me in his POE. I don't have an issue with anybody putting me in POE but if you lock clear me I need a reason for the retraction, and there was nothing between the lock clear and the retraction to indicate that he had reason to. His point is that he re-read the first 30 pages of the game and hadn't finished, but he had DP and Monty as lock, or near lock when any reason for locking either of them hadn't happened yet either.

    Not even to rehash the spew inconsistencies.

    The best way to get into my blindside is to respond to my good points like I would respond to good points, which he did for me with a multiple of my issues. So I have a flaw in my meta lol.

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    Well I think I have said 'lock clear' to so many ppl that wouldnt have much of a PoE left if I ignored them all ^^.

    Pizza falling for confirmation bias right now I think... well actually for a bit longer already. Like this was no way pocketing towards dp, why would I try to pocket over smth like that after I said that I still have some doubts about him in the back of my head... would be a bad move overall.

    But I can make you guys a deal: Hammer me tomorrow but then promise me to lynch Xia after.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaan View Post
    Well I think I have said 'lock clear' to so many ppl that wouldnt have much of a PoE left if I ignored them all ^^.

    Pizza falling for confirmation bias right now I think... well actually for a bit longer already. Like this was no way pocketing towards dp, why would I try to pocket over smth like that after I said that I still have some doubts about him in the back of my head... would be a bad move overall.

    But I can make you guys a deal: Hammer me tomorrow but then promise me to lynch Xia after.
    Why would I do X as scum is becoming worn out.

    I'd always go Csargo after you, not Xia.

    If someone really really thinks it must be Xiahou, final 4 seems fine. I'll be spinning in my grave if he flips town for the loss.
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    Well I think I have said 'lock clear' to so many ppl that wouldnt have much of a PoE left if I ignored them all ^^.

    Pizza falling for confirmation bias right now I think... well actually for a bit longer already. Like this was no way pocketing towards dp, why would I try to pocket over smth like that after I said that I still have some doubts about him in the back of my head... would be a bad move overall.

    But I can make you guys a deal: Hammer me tomorrow but then promise me to lynch Xia after.
    See it's posts like these that scream town under pressure. Then again Wifom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaan View Post
    Well I think I have said 'lock clear' to so many ppl that wouldnt have much of a PoE left if I ignored them all ^^.

    Pizza falling for confirmation bias right now I think... well actually for a bit longer already. Like this was no way pocketing towards dp, why would I try to pocket over smth like that after I said that I still have some doubts about him in the back of my head... would be a bad move overall.

    But I can make you guys a deal: Hammer me tomorrow but then promise me to lynch Xia after.
    Also, the good news is that if he's consistently confbiasing both you and CSargo

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    In addition to not seeing a towniness... I actually feel like you don't want to see it because you sussed me all game. I probably made a mistake when describing my mafia meta to you because you tinfoiled on me basically fromt he start (everyone that looks good on Logic received a lock town expect me who you had at 98% and even after I made other posts you loved you still left me there)...

    I mean I'm not ever 100% towny, never ever. But I think that this point you are tunneling on the sus you had on me all game and try to fit everything to match it kinda. Can't do anything about that but thougth to mention how I see this push of yours rn ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slaan View Post
    In addition to not seeing a towniness... I actually feel like you don't want to see it because you sussed me all game.
    I do want to see it, man.

    I wanted to see it so badly I put suspicious posts of yours as townie for you without knowing your meta.

    I have the opposite desire, I wanted to town with you so bad this game.

    And I still do, but your defenses are all coming up shallow to me.
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