Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

Before you proceed, listen here.

I am lovers with @Csargo. He can confirm. We have been lovers from the start; if one of us dies, we both die.

Choxorn assigned me a protect last round, which I used on him overnight. @Choxorn can confirm.

This, among other reasons, was why I strongly opposed your crumbing case on Slaan, and why you don't push Csargo: 3x+ Inventor* and Mafia with 1x strongman. You don't add a Mafia lover to that setup. Lynch Csargo and you lose two townies, and the only toss-up there is that you won't lose a round with an even number of players.

*We don't need to know unless Choxorn wants us to

Lovers or Masons?

Lovers can be guilty-innocent.

[Montmorency]

Lovers or Masons?

Lovers can be guilty-innocent.

Look at what we know about game mechanics.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Look at what we know about game mechanics.

You and the Csargo form a symbiant circle. What vig shot lands on one of you will affect the other.

Hmm.

I think that weakens town if he's mafia. Gives them an extra kill if the scum dies.... but then again, makes it even more likely a vig shot will kill a mafia.

But I'd still like to know if you guys actually know each other is town, or if you're just told the other dies when you do and that you're lovers.

That's an important clarification.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Monty, Csargo, do you know mechanically that the other is town or not?

[Slaan]

Now I got a question: Isnt a lover pair of town/mafia considered 3p here that only wins together and not with their respective alignments? That how it works where I'm from

[Askthepizzaguy]

Now I got a question: Isnt a lover pair of town/mafia considered 3p here that only wins together and not with their respective alignments? That how it works where I'm from

I can't speak for Sooh.

I haven't played enough on Dragonmount to know how they handle lovers, never saw any while I played there a few times.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Of the two, Csargo still looks guiltier to me. So I'll read his game and decide if it makes sense...

If not, I'll help Slaan self-terminate.

[Montmorency]

Uhm, why wouldnt there be mafia lover in that setup? It seems highly likely to me from the simple that fact that the rules state 'There is no cult', not 'there is no 3p' which town/mafia lovers are essentially.

Think about the game balance.

We know Choxorn is an inventor with at least 1x Vig and 2x Doctor/protect. We know the Mafia had 1x Strongman. Without speculating on roles for the final Mafia, which is almost certainly not a killing role at this point, attaching one of four scum to a lover is a serious handicap.

Monty, Csargo, do you know mechanically that the other is town or not?

It is not host-confirmed.

[Csargo]

Monty, Csargo, do you know mechanically that the other is town or not?

No it doesn't specifically say he's town. It says blah blah blah town lover.

[Csargo]

Lovers or Masons?

Lovers can be guilty-innocent.

We're lovers.