Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Dp101]

Can't say that that was unexpected.

[Montmorency]

You should totally kill me if I'm scum, imagine how much WIFOM fun that would be.

Jesus, famous last words.

Can't say that that was unexpected.

What is it?

[Slaan]

The whole Slaan case is draining

Try being me in this situation!

Here's a bit during N3, before Pizza flipped on Slaan. Slaan since mid-D1 was the "echo". Could read either way. Could be scum playing it safe, or it could genuinely be Slaan half-sheeping because Pizza has picked up so much slack for the Town.

Even analyzing the kill can go either way for WIFOM.

I don't think I've overly sheeped pizza? Only thing I hard sheeped him on was the Winston read because I really didnt want to read a high poster on my own and until like late game that was fine... other than that I think I was a bit contrarian like on Zack or now on Xia.. I think pizza and I just had mindmelds on most issues of this game :)

[Fredwood]

retracted.

[Slaan]

You should totally kill me if I'm scum, imagine how much WIFOM fun that would be.

lol if you're scum,

lol... hammer me so I can chat with Fredwood in graveyeard plz

Vote: Slaan

[Sooh]

Fredwood, please remove the contents of your post

[Askthepizzaguy]

You are dead, you gotta stop posting Fred.

[Askthepizzaguy]

lol... hammer me so I can chat with Fredwood in graveyeard plz

Vote: Slaan

No Xiahou/Csargo vote?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Self-voting just drags the game out if you believe that both of those are valid suspects.

We could get them lynched before you and win if they're mafia.

[Slaan]

Yea, was only joke voting there.

Vote: Xiahou

Imo our best lynch

[Csargo]

Aw man I missed Fredwood's post, I bet it was juicy. Dang.

[Slaan]

Self-voting just drags the game out if you believe that both of those are valid suspects.

We could get them lynched before you and win if they're mafia.

Then lets do it!

[Askthepizzaguy]

Yea, was only joke voting there.

Vote: Xiahou

Imo our best lynch

I'd be with you on Csargo, I can't follow you on this one.

That one was a strictly you suspect.

[Slaan]

Aw man I missed Fredwood's post, I bet it was juicy. Dang.

Na was boring, smth about him likeing being punished and being in a BDSM club or smth

[Dp101]

What is it?

The kill. Only non-Pizza target who has been consistently providing content and has no one suspecting them, and there's a continued fear of a doc that seems to be driving kills away from Pizza, so they seemed to be the most likely target.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Csargo, hard claim now please.

[Montmorency]

Before you proceed, listen here.

I am lovers with @Csargo. He can confirm. We have been lovers from the start; if one of us dies, we both die.

Choxorn assigned me a protect last round, which I used on him overnight. @Choxorn can confirm.

This, among other reasons, was why I strongly opposed your crumbing case on Slaan, and why you don't push Csargo: 3x+ Inventor* and Mafia with 1x strongman. You don't add a Mafia lover to that setup. Lynch Csargo and you lose two townies, and the only toss-up there is that you won't lose a round with an even number of players.

*We don't need to know unless Choxorn wants us to

[Askthepizzaguy]

If there is a doctor they haven't saved anyone, even though every murder choice was anticipated.

At this point it just looks like strongman was meant to counter the joat doctor, bizarre as that seems.

[Csargo]

Before you proceed, listen here.

I am lovers with @Csargo. He can confirm. We have been lovers from the start; if one of us dies, we both die.

Choxorn assigned me a protect last round, which I used on him overnight. @Choxorn can confirm.

This, among other reasons, was why I strongly opposed your crumbing case on Slaan, and why you don't push Csargo: 3x+ Inventor* and Mafia with 1x strongman. You don't add a Mafia lover to that setup. Lynch Csargo and you lose two townies, and the only toss-up there is that you won't lose a round with an even number of players.

*We don't need to know unless Choxorn wants us to

Can confirm, am Monty's lover

[Askthepizzaguy]

Before you proceed, listen here.

I am lovers with @Csargo. He can confirm. We have been lovers from the start; if one of us dies, we both die.

Choxorn assigned me a protect last round, which I used on him overnight. @Choxorn can confirm.

This, among other reasons, was why I strongly opposed your crumbing case on Slaan, and why you don't push Csargo: 3x+ Inventor* and Mafia with 1x strongman. You don't add a Mafia lover to that setup. Lynch Csargo and you lose two townies, and the only toss-up there is that you won't lose a round with an even number of players.

*We don't need to know unless Choxorn wants us to

Lovers or Masons?

Lovers can be guilty-innocent.

[Csargo]

I think we broke him Monty...

[Slaan]

I'd be with you on Csargo, I can't follow you on this one.

That one was a strictly you suspect.

I mean idk what the move here is. I think the odds of Xia being the last scum are like at least double that of Csargo... let me quickly make up some percentage to tell you how I roughly feel the odds of everyone being scum is:
0% its Chox (well 0.001%)
5% its between you or dp and we've been majorly bamboozelt
10% it's Cuth. Spew looks good towards him but what's coming from him is very lacking...
15% it's Monty
25% its Csargo
45% it's Xia

Yea.. thats sounds about right. So hm. I think I'll remain on Xia.

[Montmorency]

Lovers or Masons?

Lovers can be guilty-innocent.

Look at what we know about game mechanics.

[Csargo]

Lovers or Masons?

Lovers can be guilty-innocent.

We're lovers.

[Dp101]

Wait what on earth. So, lovers means that Csarg/Monty are clear. I know I'm clear. Chox is clear. Pizza is basically always clear. So, is it Cuth/Slaan/Xia?

[Slaan]

Before you proceed, listen here.

I am lovers with @Csargo. He can confirm. We have been lovers from the start; if one of us dies, we both die.

Choxorn assigned me a protect last round, which I used on him overnight. @Choxorn can confirm.

This, among other reasons, was why I strongly opposed your crumbing case on Slaan, and why you don't push Csargo: 3x+ Inventor* and Mafia with 1x strongman. You don't add a Mafia lover to that setup. Lynch Csargo and you lose two townies, and the only toss-up there is that you won't lose a round with an even number of players.

*We don't need to know unless Choxorn wants us to

Uhm, why wouldnt there be mafia lover in that setup? It seems highly likely to me from the simple that fact that the rules state 'There is no cult', not 'there is no 3p' which town/mafia lovers are essentially.

[Choxorn]

Before you proceed, listen here.

I am lovers with @Csargo. He can confirm. We have been lovers from the start; if one of us dies, we both die.

Choxorn assigned me a protect last round, which I used on him overnight. @Choxorn can confirm.

This, among other reasons, was why I strongly opposed your crumbing case on Slaan, and why you don't push Csargo: 3x+ Inventor* and Mafia with 1x strongman. You don't add a Mafia lover to that setup. Lynch Csargo and you lose two townies, and the only toss-up there is that you won't lose a round with an even number of players.

*We don't need to know unless Choxorn wants us to

Can confirm, gave Monty a protection N3.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Look at what we know about game mechanics.

You and the Csargo form a symbiant circle. What vig shot lands on one of you will affect the other.

Hmm.

I think that weakens town if he's mafia. Gives them an extra kill if the scum dies.... but then again, makes it even more likely a vig shot will kill a mafia.

But I'd still like to know if you guys actually know each other is town, or if you're just told the other dies when you do and that you're lovers.

That's an important clarification.

[Askthepizzaguy]

Monty, Csargo, do you know mechanically that the other is town or not?

[Slaan]

Now I got a question: Isnt a lover pair of town/mafia considered 3p here that only wins together and not with their respective alignments? That how it works where I'm from