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Where is everyone >_>
I'll allow this.
Fine, if you insist. Vote: Slaan. This feels suboptimal, but whatever.
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Originally Posted by Dp101:
Fine, if you insist. Vote: Slaan. This feels suboptimal, but whatever.
Thanks^^ hf gl allFine, if you insist. Vote: Slaan. This feels suboptimal, but whatever.
That's a lynch!
Slaan (5): Csargo, Pizza, Slaan, Montmorency, Dp101,
Not voting (3): Cuthillius, Choxorn, Xiahou,
With 8 players there are 5 to hammer.
Standby.
Slaan (5): Csargo, Pizza, Slaan, Montmorency, Dp101,
Not voting (3): Cuthillius, Choxorn, Xiahou,
With 8 players there are 5 to hammer.
Standby.
I mean.
I've heard of rapid chess.
But this was.... off the charts.
Oki. As you wish.
Slaan was:
EON 5:
I've heard of rapid chess.
But this was.... off the charts.
Oki. As you wish.
Slaan was:
Spoiler Alert, click show to read:
EON 5:
Xiahou ride or die.
Super Lame
@Askthepizzaguy
I think I've figured it out.
I think for all the reads/leans Zack, GH, and Logic (where applicable) have on the same people, you see these patterns:
Logic is scattershot. Where he is involved, he can deploy supportive shade (e.g. Reinoe), corroborate consensus town reads (e.g. DP), just make something up (e.g. Slaan), or go contrarian to his partners (e.g. Kage)
The GH-Zack team has a few joint town reads (e.g. DP, Kage), or joint scum reads (e.g. Cuth, Barto, Choxorn), but more subtly they have reads where one sees scum and the other stays nullish (e.g. Manasi) or one sees town and the other nullish (not sure, for a time maybe Fred).
So that's Mafia vs. Town, but what's next? How the Mafia read each other:
Logic: GH and Zack consistently defend him, keep him at null or light-to-moderate town.
GH: Logic shades GH a bit for townreading Kage. Zack from my review doesn't outright give read on GH, but he does engage him a lot on other people, and he does explore GH's meta (for wanting to "read him better" in an exchange that Winston and others thought especially good for both).
Zack: GH comfortably places Zack at the top of his town pile, and also has an episode early in the thread where he prods Zack about meta: does scum-Zack deny other players their townreads of him? Logic never tries to assess Zack - ooh, distancing.
That's a lot of variations, and investigating each individual pattern gets complex very fast. But you know what we haven't seen yet? You don't see both GH and Zack taking a nullish, non-committal stance on the same character.
Xiahou: GH put him just below his townline, but wanted to townread him. Zack shaded Xiahou for his vote on him but kept him nullish to be resolved later, and this indirectly by responding to Csargo asking Xiahou "why" for keeping his vote on Zack and sussing GH.
This is very strange! Why are the Zack-GH interactions with Xiahou, few as they are, marking a joint pattern that doesn't seem to manifest anywhere else with any other player?
What's so special about Xiahou?
I'll get this more detailed/cross-referenced by the end of night.
I think I've figured it out.
I think for all the reads/leans Zack, GH, and Logic (where applicable) have on the same people, you see these patterns:
Logic is scattershot. Where he is involved, he can deploy supportive shade (e.g. Reinoe), corroborate consensus town reads (e.g. DP), just make something up (e.g. Slaan), or go contrarian to his partners (e.g. Kage)
The GH-Zack team has a few joint town reads (e.g. DP, Kage), or joint scum reads (e.g. Cuth, Barto, Choxorn), but more subtly they have reads where one sees scum and the other stays nullish (e.g. Manasi) or one sees town and the other nullish (not sure, for a time maybe Fred).
So that's Mafia vs. Town, but what's next? How the Mafia read each other:
Logic: GH and Zack consistently defend him, keep him at null or light-to-moderate town.
GH: Logic shades GH a bit for townreading Kage. Zack from my review doesn't outright give read on GH, but he does engage him a lot on other people, and he does explore GH's meta (for wanting to "read him better" in an exchange that Winston and others thought especially good for both).
Zack: GH comfortably places Zack at the top of his town pile, and also has an episode early in the thread where he prods Zack about meta: does scum-Zack deny other players their townreads of him? Logic never tries to assess Zack - ooh, distancing.
That's a lot of variations, and investigating each individual pattern gets complex very fast. But you know what we haven't seen yet? You don't see both GH and Zack taking a nullish, non-committal stance on the same character.
Xiahou: GH put him just below his townline, but wanted to townread him. Zack shaded Xiahou for his vote on him but kept him nullish to be resolved later, and this indirectly by responding to Csargo asking Xiahou "why" for keeping his vote on Zack and sussing GH.
This is very strange! Why are the Zack-GH interactions with Xiahou, few as they are, marking a joint pattern that doesn't seem to manifest anywhere else with any other player?
What's so special about Xiahou?
I'll get this more detailed/cross-referenced by the end of night.
FWIW, I would've voted Slaan too after his self-voting tantrum. It makes no sense for town to self-vote. I assumed it to be a last-ditch effort to throw suspicion.
So where does that leave us?
So where does that leave us?
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