Chess - Game Thread [Concluded]

[Askthepizzaguy]

The struggle is real for me if it's Xiahou or dp, either one.

I never get there in time. The only reason why it's Xiahou tomorrow is because he always lynches instead of dp, right? It's not even because I think he's scum, it's because if I choose between Xia and dp I choose dp to live.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The struggle for you, if it's csargo, could be equally daunting.

All I ask is that we think about it.

[Askthepizzaguy]

So the murders were meant to avoid hitting doctor protection, yes?

Even with that restriction, why are the people who are alive now alive?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why is dp alive instead of fredwood, why is monty and csargo both alive when you were in a lot of people's towns, monty?

Even if Kagemusha was lock town, why did he have to go instead of someone else? Why choose those kills?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Why does Xiahou kill those people and lose the game?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Who did the dead people want to lynch, did we check?

[Askthepizzaguy]

Like, pretend it's Xiahou.

Okay, I'm alive because I'm defending him, but it's not enough now is it? He also kept alive a bunch of people who are fine to kill him.

[Askthepizzaguy]

rip my dinner.

[Montmorency]

Why does Xiahou kill those people and lose the game?

Who did the dead people want to lynch, did we check?

N1

Winston:

If chox isn't scum, reinoe's position on his wagon looks bad.

You joined right when it looked like it might actually beat out the Logic wagon.

This is similar to what made me think chox was bussing: he voted Logic right when I felt sure the wagon was going the distance.

Suspicious of Zack in Zack-Dp. Also still suspicious of Choxorn.

Pizza: Lock town were Pizza, Winston, DP, Kage, Slaan. POE was GH, Zack, Manasi, Chox, Barto, Csargo,


N2

Kage: Was a leader on GH's case N1, and put Cuth and Zack in his POE. Disagreed with Slaan that Choxorn was a priority lynch. N2, he suggested Cuth as next on the POE. Manasi, Choxorn, and Xiahou were in the default lynch bucket and needed to speak up. Zack/Cuth more likely than Zack/Manasi (1498 going hard after Cuth). Kage made several references to not surviving the night over N2.

N1, he said:

Last point if i die tonight. I think something that should be looked at more carefully would be the Bussing of DP101 and not take anything by face value. Was that bussing dangerous to anyone and what did it achieve?

So it's likely that the Mafia did not have smearing or linking DP101 on their mind, at that time at least.

Pizza: Lock town were Pizza, DP, Kage, Slaan, Fred, Monty (and Reinoe and Xiahou on Zack flip). POE was Zack, Manasi, Chox, Barto,

*Zack was still alive N2. Why does he kill, or what does he plan with his partner in killing, Kage instead of Pizza?


N3

Reinoe: N1, had thought Barto and Chox scummy; Winston and Kage town, Zack mafia. Not sure if he suspected Fred, but it may have been borderline. DP as town on D2. N2 wanted to lynch Zack over Choxorn, and didn't feel strongly about Manasi scum. No activity D3. N3 said ought to be in Barto/Choxorn, Choxorn over Barto, though the situation was starting to get shaky. Cuth slightly spewed by Zack. Slaan said, "Oh shit reinoe lock town", and Pizza affirmed.

Pizza: Lock town were same (?). POE was Barto, Choxorn, Csargo (?).


N4

Fred: N1 had suspected Barto, Reinoe, mixed feelings on DP, Zack, GH, and Choxorn. N2 had POE as one of Chox/Manasi, but more likely two of Cuth/Zack/Barto. However, Manasi scummier than Zack individually. Agreed with Kage's suggestion that Cuth needed to be on the agenda next (for D3). Reinoe and Zack not teamed. No activity D3. N3, and debated Slaan keeping him (fred) in his POE. D4, agreed with Pizza's POE below, had residual suspicion of Cuth (?).

Pizza: Lock town were Pizza, DP, Choxorn, Fred. POE was Csargo, Slaan, Monty.


N5

Choxorn: Nearly vanished after N1 (when he shaded Winston and Reinoe). After GH lynch, agreed that Manasi-Zack solved the game. With the D4 claim, Choxorn was highest lock townie as a PR with multiple affidavits.

Pizza: Lock town were Pizza, Choxorn, DP, with lovers likely mechanically clear. POE was Cuth-Xiahou.



The only NK who wasn't considered lock town at the time was reinoe, who was nearly there - or maybe because he became more-or-less lock with Zack's flip. Targets who were NKed suspected someone who would be lynched the following day (Reino, Fred), or were instrumental in lynching scum (Winston, Kage). Reinoe dying could reflect poorly on Fred. Winston, Reinoe and Fred dying could also be setting up Choxorn. Killing Kage and Fred should be long-term beneficial to Cuth. Pizza spent most of the post-Logic game rooting for Cuth and Xiahou, so they wouldn't have much incentive to kill him (though in general there is incentive to kill a Pizzaguy, and Zack definitely could have used Pizza dead)

In conclusion, you could make a fair case for Cuth choosing these kills - but Xiahou, well, no one was really talking about him so it's hard to formulate what his plan may have been... It's not inconsistent witj Xiahou-scum at least, I don't think.

[Askthepizzaguy]

I didn't look, but that seems to match my general impression.

Xiahou no show means he might no show in final 3 or final 4, so.

[Montmorency]

I didn't look, but that seems to match my general impression.

Xiahou no show means he might no show in final 3 or final 4, so.

Is that good or bad?

I mean, it's bad wrt playing the game, but...