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    I think a big part of it is that I've never been all that satisfied with my town game.

    I have nothing left to prove as a mafioso. But my town game is maybe 50/50, as most people's town game is when they're over 100 games. You don't get significantly higher than that because it is a team game.

    But this year in particular I've been working on it.

    In the past 3 games, on here and on MTGS, I've caught 3 wolves in each game. That's 9 wolves in 3 games. But I didn't win either of the first two games I am mentioning here, because one got away.

    And here. One got away. But it was within my power to make it happen, if I figured it out and convinced the correct people, because there might have been doc protection on me, leading the scums to shoot away. The other games, I died after finding a scum and pointing at the other two.

    This was the game where I was gonna actually finish a game out. I was trying to prove something to myself, that my town game was not shit.

    But even at the end, if I had gotten what I wanted and the final scum died, once that compulsion was over and done with, I'd still be here in this same situation.

    It has to be okay to not catch every scum, and for me this game, it was not okay. I needed to get them all or I was a worthless player, and my town game was never going to be any good at all.

    And I never held anyone else to such standards in all my years of playing mafia.

    As recently cited to someone else about being a good player, because they thought they were not good enough to play on MU:

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy
    What makes a good werewolf player?

    I have noticed over the years that players seem to be under the mistaken impression that they need to win oodles of games and/or win as werewolf and/or lynch all the scums as villager and/or never lynch villagers as villager in order to be a decent player.

    I think I touched on this a bit before my first game here on this forum.

    Okay, let us imagine this ideal werewolf player. They only accuse the wolves as villager, they never accuse villagers as villager, and they always win as wolf. Somehow. They win 90 percent of the games they play. They've been playing for 10 years.

    Now let us imagine they have no further redeeming or endearing qualities. They don't really converse with their fellow players, they have no sense of humor, they think little of everyone else's earnest efforts, and they take the game personally. They also drop from games for no reason without explanation.

    Is this person a good werewolf player?

    No.

    They might be skilled, but they aren't a good player.

    A good player, let us imagine him or her for a second. The ideal good werewolf player.

    They are wrong sometimes and right sometimes. (That's pretty much everyone.)
    They want to share the game experience with other players, and get involved by conversing with the rest of the players, on their team or not.
    They have a sense of humor or can appreciate others' attempts at humor.
    They don't take it personally if you're wrong about them, or lose the game for their team.
    They sign up for games only if they truly intend to give it their best effort.
    They notify game hosts when they need to drop, with a reason why, preferably.
    They are at least aware of the vote tally when one has been posted, and aware of when the round ends, and try to make decisions that help their team.

    And that's it.

    They don't need to be particularly good at accusing anyone. They don't need to be accurate. They don't need to be a leader, or extremely talkative.

    It is, at the last, a guessing game between friends, a casual experience. Some really put in the effort and try to find all the wolves themselves, but that is not a requirement.

    If you show up and try, and you keep things in perspective, and you notify game hosts when you can't play anymore, and it's not an every game thing where you need to drop out, then you are a good player.

    I'd rather play with 20 good players than one "skilled" player who has no other redeeming qualities.

    So please, take that to heart.

    And keep it in mind if I kinda suck out loud one game. LOL
    But this is the problem. I broke my own rule. I was basically becoming the wannabe skilled player with no other redeeming qualities. Harmful to my own enjoyment of the game and that of others.

    That's really why I am stepping away.

    I am holding myself to a double standard. I've always said it's okay for others to guess wrong, but I badly broke that rule this game, for myself.
    #Winstontoostrong
    #Montytoostronger

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