Feminism out of control?

[Fragony]

Could have, bit too young for me

[Montmorency]

Could have, bit too young for me

Is it related to the [REDACTED] incident?

[Fragony]

nah

[Gilrandir]

In the USA, we punted English quite a while back.

But not the language, though.

This campaign isn't directed at you. It's about a large number of men who do those things, as evidenced by countless examples from females across cultures.

I have a feeling that some campaigners join in for PR or some other reasons not directly connected to the ostensible aim. I mean how could you have been nonchalant and unperturbed and SILENT for dozens of years and then abruptly you claim to have been suffering most horribly.

[Husar]

I have a feeling that some campaigners join in for PR or some other reasons not directly connected to the ostensible aim. I mean how could you have been nonchalant and unperturbed and SILENT for dozens of years and then abruptly you claim to have been suffering most horribly.

Fear.
Fear of people who will start victim blaming and not believing them if they end up being the only ones, etc.
Fear of being alone in the spotlight as "the victim", becoming controversial, ruining other aspects of one's life and so on and on.

I often wonder whether I should tell others about the time I got robbed. On the one hand it's an interesting story, on the other hand it may skew their view of me towards "victim, weak" and so on and I may not want that. Being a victim can be like a disability, it may not be your own fault, but you may suffer in even more unrelated situations anyway. Certain people here also tend to use "Opfer" (victim in German) as an insult. Comes from Middle Easterners as far as I can tell, but Germans use it as well now.

[Sarmatian]

I do believe that things ought to be discussed, not swept under the rug, but I just don't see how anyone can maintain that there is institutionalized discrimination of white males in the western world.

It's just mind-boggling. Take any parameter you want, white males are always on top.

Certainly there are cases of discrimination against white males, but they are very rare, in contrast with discrimination of women or males of other skin colour.

[Viking]

I do believe that things ought to be discussed, not swept under the rug, but I just don't see how anyone can maintain that there is institutionalized discrimination of white males in the western world.

It's just mind-boggling. Take any parameter you want, white males are always on top.

No, it is not mind-boggling that resident populations of well-developed countries fare better off in their home countries than immigrant populations from poorly developed countries.

[Gilrandir]

Fear.
Fear of people who will start victim blaming and not believing them if they end up being the only ones, etc.
Fear of being alone in the spotlight as "the victim", becoming controversial, ruining other aspects of one's life and so on and on.

I don't believe influential women have this fear. Oprah has been talking of her experience for years. The actresses involved in the Weinsten scandal couldn't have been that scared for that long.

[Beskar]

The actresses involved in the Weinsten scandal couldn't have been that scared for that long.

It is an open secret and known by everyone and nothing was ever done about it.
https://www.nytimes.com/video/movies...unch-line.html

[Montmorency]

I don't believe influential women have this fear. Oprah has been talking of her experience for years. The actresses involved in the Weinsten scandal couldn't have been that scared for that long.

Why not? You lack the experience to understand, don't you?

I wouldn't lecture you on how you must really have felt when you visited America - that's your own story. People who visit America don't have a single universal experience.