UK Politics Thread

[Furunculus]

Goodness knows, and that's the whole point. We don't know what Johnson has been up to, and he in his official positions should have had a record of what he's been doing...

But what have Russia got for their money?

I know what Russia has got from Germany - twenty years of ost-politik that has seen:
1. Complete dependence on Russian energy
2. A 20b euro subsidy of his war in Ukraine
3. Control over Germany's strategic reserves of Gas which Gazprom ran down in the months before Ukraine invasion
4. German lobbying for Nordstream pipelines that everyone said would be used by Russia to shaft eastern europe
5. Interference in German energy politics to discredit nuclear - complete speculation here, but you're familiar with the method
6. And i could go on here...

But when it comes to what Russia 'bought' from Boris...

I struggle to see the pay-off Russia got for asking Yevgeny to slide manilla envelopes to Boris:
1. Biggest promoter of the Russian sanctions regime in europe
2. Ten years of Op Orbital training soldiers in Ukraine
3. A foriegn policy that directs Defence to treat Russia as the UK's primary military opponent
4. One of the largest material supporters of Ukranian military resistance against Russia
5. One of the largest political supporters of Ukranian military resistance against Russia
6. Now training 10k ukranian soldiers in the UK every four months

Dragging this up repeatedly amounts to mud-slinging rather than an important revelation.

[Pannonian]

But what have Russia got for their money?

I know what Russia has got from Germany - twenty years of ost-politik that has seen:
1. Complete dependence on Russian energy
2. A 20b euro subsidy of his war in Ukraine
3. Control over Germany's strategic reserves of Gas which Gazprom ran down in the months before Ukraine invasion
4. German lobbying for Nordstream pipelines that everyone said would be used by Russia to shaft eastern europe
5. Interference in German energy politics to discredit nuclear - complete speculation here, but you're familiar with the method
6. And i could go on here...

But when it comes to what Russia 'bought' from Boris...

I struggle to see the pay-off Russia got for asking Yevgeny to slide manilla envelopes to Boris:
1. Biggest promoter of the Russian sanctions regime in europe
2. Ten years of Op Orbital training soldiers in Ukraine
3. A foriegn policy that directs Defence to treat Russia as the UK's primary military opponent
4. One of the largest material supporters of Ukranian military resistance against Russia
5. One of the largest political supporters of Ukranian military resistance against Russia
6. Now training 10k ukranian soldiers in the UK every four months

Dragging this up repeatedly amounts to mud-slinging rather than an important revelation.

Don't you think it's a good thing for our government to know what our ministers have been up to? If official procedure is that ministers should not meet with risky individuals without the presence of others, don't you reckon that there might be a reason for that?