UK Politics Thread

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Remind me which European economies are collapsing.

Germany?

[Idaho]

Germany?

Collapsing? What a quarter where economic growth stalls is a collapse? That's like saying when I put my car in neutral I have destroyed my car.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

It is one of those days where I shake my head and smile...as I agree with Idaho. Not common for us.

Economic downturns are part of the normal ebb and flow of an economy. I agree with Idaho that it is a little premature to label that as "collapsing." May get there of course, but calling it that already is a bit much.


'Blades, I have to disagree with your labelling them "invaders." That label implies a more programmatic effort than has been experienced by Europe. The human waves experienced have been the result of horrible conditions elsewhere and the rational choices of many individuals to say "F that, I am outta here." I do agree with you as to how the open borders result in strains on economies, especially those with the best social welfare support for non-citizens. Ending up there is ALSO the rational choice for the refugee. While I don't think it to be any more programmatic than I do ants finding their way to spilled sugar in my pantry, it does not mean that the impact on the host economies of all these added persons is any less.

[Pannonian]

It is one of those days where I shake my head and smile...as I agree with Idaho. Not common for us.

Economic downturns are part of the normal ebb and flow of an economy. I agree with Idaho that it is a little premature to label that as "collapsing." May get there of course, but calling it that already is a bit much.


'Blades, I have to disagree with your labelling them "invaders." That label implies a more programmatic effort than has been experienced by Europe. The human waves experienced have been the result of horrible conditions elsewhere and the rational choices of many individuals to say "F that, I am outta here." I do agree with you as to how the open borders result in strains on economies, especially those with the best social welfare support for non-citizens. Ending up there is ALSO the rational choice for the refugee. While I don't think it to be any more programmatic than I do ants finding their way to spilled sugar in my pantry, it does not mean that the impact on the host economies of all these added persons is any less.

Funny how these "invaded" countries want to remain in the EU, while the UK, which is one of the least affected, wants out. It's a bit like how cities with high immigration don't see a problem with such (hello London), while areas with the least immigration see the country swamped by immigrants.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Funny how these "invaded" countries want to remain in the EU, while the UK, which is one of the least affected, wants out. It's a bit like how cities with high immigration don't see a problem with such (hello London), while areas with the least immigration see the country swamped by immigrants.

City-mouse v Country-mouse, Pan.' A common co-cultural difference in virtually all cultures, with the Country-mice almost inevitably being more conservative in outlook than their urbane cousins.

[Greyblades]

They are an unwanted influx of people who disregard national boundaries and lack a uniting reason or even origin, let alone the lie that those welcoming thier arrival has tried to perpetuate of them all being middle east refugees.

The reality is that the majority are economically motivated migrants seeking a better life in lands to which they have no right to and those who had claim to refugee status discarded it when they decided to keep going despite reaching the safety of nations bordering or proximate to thier place of origin.

An invasion is an appropriate descriptor.

[Greyblades]

Vis the uk, there was active efforts to foist them on us and our lack of impact was directly down to westminster telling brussels to piss off.

I suspect you can consider that clusterfuck in calais as one of the candidate events that pushed brexit over the line. I wouldnt bo sure about the desire to remain being a permanent fixture what with the resurgeance of nationalism in europe, this being a major reason why.

[Philippus Flavius Homovallumus]

Collapsing? What a quarter where economic growth stalls is a collapse? That's like saying when I put my car in neutral I have destroyed my car.

I was being flippant - nonetheless, Germany's economy has been slowly stagnating and the Chancellor is losing control.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

I was being flippant - nonetheless, Germany's economy has been slowly stagnating and the Chancellor is losing control.

Indeed. Germany is facing a downturn and Merkel does not seem to be at the top of her game.

[Montmorency]

Social pathologies of the old country.

BREAKING:

It has been reported that PC Laura Hughes of Wiltshire Police (Aka Laura Jordan) who turned her back as violent hunt supporters assaulted peaceful anti-hunt protestors in Lacock on Monday, is a fully paid up member of the Avon Vale Hunt.

People in shock over BBC’s choice of interviewee following Maxwell verdict

...Alan Dershowitz

(Unlike the riffraff Maxwell trafficked in)

[Pannonian]

At a key point in the pandemic, the government signed a £107 million deal to buy PPE from a NI sweet company. Lyndsey Telford investigates what happened next, and how a box of kit that cost the taxpayer £1,000 came to be sold for just a fiver.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episod...unting-for-ppe

CLANDEBOYE AGENCIES LTD
Nature of business (SIC)
46360 - Wholesale of sugar and chocolate and sugar confectionery

https://find-and-update.company-info...mpany/NI617785

250 x Fluid Repellent PE Gowns Disposable Blue Surgical Sleeve Thumb Loop PPE
Buy 1
£95.00 each

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/403296785...kAAOSwugVhvY1g

Why are they in government?

[rory_20_uk]

The Civil Service organises these logistics.
Politicians were giving their associates contracts.