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    The FCC is set on repealing certain "net neutrality" policies enacted under Obama.
    In fact, they are so focused on passing their new policy, they are blithely ignoring evidence of fraud in the public comments process surrounding the policy.
    "2 million people—and some dead ones—were impersonated in net neutrality comments"; 18 state attorneys general have filed objections and have been stonewalled of ignored.

    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/...lity-comments/

    Why does it matter?:

    http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...et-neutrality/

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    So much FUD in the net neutrality debate.... and Politifact should stick to politics instead of trying to explain how networks function- something they clearly have no understanding of.

    How many people who call themselves supporters of net neutrality, cite as an example of it's need Netflix and it's OpenConnect spat with Comcast? Netflix demanding that Comcast colocate their appliances for free in order to give Netflix customers faster access to Netflix content. Fast-lane anyone? Favoring the big guy over the little guys? People who really wanted ISPs to treat all traffic equally would demand that Netflix comes in the front door the same as all other content providers who don't have the market clout or financial wherewithal to push out caching servers to ISPs. At the very least, ISPs should be free to charge Netflix to rack, power and maintain their equipment the same as they would anyone else who isn't a Netflix or Google.

    I support what the FCC is doing to pare back the Obama-era regulations. But, regardless of which side you are on, realize that the debate is much more nuanced than the "freedom vs greed" black and white version that so many are peddling.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    I support what the FCC is doing to pare back the Obama-era regulations.
    Why?


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    Why?
    Because if it is associated with Obama, it must be bad, even if in reality the proposed rollsbacks and changes are worse.
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    Forward to the victory, Donald!

    I love companies like Comcast and Verizon, which own NBC-MSNBC and Huffington Post respectively!
    I dare to predict that these adorable liberal (fake-news, pro-communist, Muslim-controlled and etc.) media will greatly benefit from the end of net neutrality, so a nasty, little surprise awaits all Trump's fandom, who cheers for everything their idol does.

    Conservatives supporting a move that will help Huffington Post to the detriment of Breitbart, a dream coming true?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beskar View Post
    Because if it is associated with Obama, it must be bad, even if in reality the proposed rollsbacks and changes are worse.
    I don't think Xiahou thinks of it as simple as that.
    As he hinted, he knows a lot about networking. So I'd expect a somewhat sensible reason from him or maybe he works for an ISP now and hopes for a wage increase.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    I don't think Xiahou thinks of it as simple as that.
    As he hinted, he knows a lot about networking. So I'd expect a somewhat sensible reason from him or maybe he works for an ISP now and hopes for a wage increase.
    I know Xiahou isn't that bad, I am very curious though, because I heard a lot of the roll-backs extend to pre-dial-up era regulation too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Husar View Post
    Why?
    Becaues:
    1. There was no "emergency" that required them to cramdown their version of net neutrality using TItle2. They could have waited for a legislative solution.
    2. Title2 was the wrong vehicle push net neutrality and it came with a lot of regulatory baggage that was hurting infrastructure investment.
    3. I oppose net neutrality regulations generally. The Internet has grown to what it is today without it and is better off letting it continue to grow organically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xiahou View Post
    Becaues:
    1. There was no "emergency" that required them to cramdown their version of net neutrality using TItle2. They could have waited for a legislative solution.
    The legislature gives them the ability to determine the application of Title 2, yes? It was a exercise of the power within their authority. Regulatory agencies do not require "emergencies" to begin course corrections anyway...

    2. Title2 was the wrong vehicle push net neutrality and it came with a lot of regulatory baggage that was hurting infrastructure investment.
    Possibly, but wholesale repeal of it lacks just as much nuance. Especially since the 'goal' of Net Neutrality was to maintain the status quo and prevent the market from resembling New Zealand and Portugal. Why is Ajit not waiting for a legislative solution?

    3. I oppose net neutrality regulations generally. The Internet has grown to what it is today without it and is better off letting it continue to grow organically.
    The evolution of markets is a double edged sword. They change sometimes for the better, sometimes for the worse.


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    https://www.fcc.gov/ecfs/filing/1051157755251

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