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    Often the advantage when we end sanctions - things improve for the locals and blaming everything on outside problems doesn't work.

    The Guard and Army are more than capable of imposing their will if they want - they've been training in Syria and Iraq for extended periods of time. Hopefully things will return to how they were in the 1960's.

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    My sig I didn't know I still had is relevant again, go team Persia I hope it works this time and I hope socalled quality-media covers it this time for the bedtimestorykids that watch/read them

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    I had heard one of the usual government pronouncements that police violence in Iran was the result of some kind of outside agitators stirring things up.

    I rolled my eyes, as I usually do at such things.

    However, I got to thinking....

    We have Saudi proxies (at least by some definitions) clashing with Iranian regulars in Syria and Saudi regulars clashing with Iranian proxies in Yemen. We know from previous episodes over that last three years that not all in Iran are content.

    Might it ACTUALLY be outside agitators for once? Trying the RomeTW 'send 4 spies to force the town to rebel' ploy? I am not sure.
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    Of course there are foreign agitators, but that doesn't mean that the uprising was a black op. Foreign involvement in such cases is limited to adding fuel to the flames.
    https://twitter.com/Zolfegar12/statu...36369990070278

    The democratically elected government and its foreign policy enjoys approval by the majority, while the protests are mostly civil in nature.
    http://cissm.umd.edu/sites/default/f...L%20-%20sm.pdf
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b06d1621b9a019

    Iran is divided, but if the American war hawks hope for a pro-American revolution, then they are going to be disappointed.
    http://www.dw.com/en/iran-protests-r...rce/a-41974090

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    Has their ever been a pro-American revolution that we did not sponsor/enact for ourselves? I cannot recall one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crandar View Post
    Of course there are foreign agitators, but that doesn't mean that the uprising was a black op. Foreign involvement in such cases is limited to adding fuel to the flames.
    https://twitter.com/Zolfegar12/statu...36369990070278

    The democratically elected government and its foreign policy enjoys approval by the majority, while the protests are mostly civil in nature.
    http://cissm.umd.edu/sites/default/f...L%20-%20sm.pdf
    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b06d1621b9a019

    Iran is divided, but if the American war hawks hope for a pro-American revolution, then they are going to be disappointed.
    http://www.dw.com/en/iran-protests-r...rce/a-41974090
    I am not a hawk and not American, but if something is going to change it will be in Iran and nowhere else. Iranians are different from other people in the middle-east they are much more free-thinking. Maybe I am overly optimistic and I am most certainly biased but still, go team Persia salafist those mullahs, hard deep and unsafe
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