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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    Bwahaha. Are you having Brexit-style problems too? As in decades of made up BS about your unfavourite trading bloc of choice, so that they get the blame for everything under the blue sky (eg. rory, a medical professional, blaming the EU for WTO rules).
    Odd example since I never said that. But I understand your desire to discredit rather than bother to think. It is not the rules, it is the implementation. The latest "fallback" position is to in essence annex Northern Ireland. Doubtlessly due to WTO rules as well.

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    Interesting idea though I don't imagine it would actually happen short of more coordination between Australian and UK foreign policy. Haven't seen this on British news though so I guess it isn't a serious suggestion of his:

    A leading member of Britain’s House of Commons select committee on foreign affairs has called for London to share its permanent seat on the UN Security Council with Australia.

    In the most radical Brexit-era security proposal so far, Bob Seely, the Conservative member for the Isle of Wight, told The Australian he believed the British UN seat should “become an Anglosphere seat”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spmetla View Post
    Interesting idea though I don't imagine it would actually happen short of more coordination between Australian and UK foreign policy. Haven't seen this on British news though so I guess it isn't a serious suggestion of his:

    A leading member of Britain’s House of Commons select committee on foreign affairs has called for London to share its permanent seat on the UN Security Council with Australia.

    In the most radical Brexit-era security proposal so far, Bob Seely, the Conservative member for the Isle of Wight, told The Australian he believed the British UN seat should “become an Anglosphere seat”.

    https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...1c163b65038b52
    It does make no sense that the UK and France have two seats. France could give its seat to the EU and then perhaps the 5 eyes minus the USA (which already has one) could oversee the other. How that would work in a practical sense might be far more difficult - and the combined economic and military might would still not be that great.

    I doubt anyone would want to give a seat to a country that would change the status quo even if it might be "fairer".

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    It does make no sense that the UK and France have two seats.
    if not britain and france, then who?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Furunculus View Post
    if not britain and france, then who?
    Yes, I can not think of a better single country that adds balance. I am mindful that there is no representation in Africa nor South America but which country in either has enough power?

    Japan is a possibility - although its current constitution might be a challenge.

    The EU and the "Anglosphere" at least spreads them out somewhat more equally.

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