Hearthstone Mafia [Concluded]

[Csargo]

Ok, thanks.

So overall it would be safe to say that you don't really have a particularly strong scumread on Kage but he's still a bit worse-looking than everyone else?

Yeah, I don't have a Manasi level scumread on him, but he's done enough in my mind that he's worthy of being at the bottom of my list imo.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Yeah, I don't have a Manasi level scumread on him, but he's done enough in my mind that he's worthy of being at the bottom of my list imo.

Speaking of Manasi, can you elaborate your take on her? Your read of her in your earlier main post was the shortest by far, just wondered if there was anything more.

[Csargo]

Speaking of Manasi, can you elaborate your take on her? Your read of her in your earlier main post was the shortest by far, just wondered if there was anything more.

Not really. I find it pretty hard to read Manasi most of the time. I felt the disillusionment with the state of the game seemed genuine, I share the same sentiment to a degree, but that seemed townie to me at least. Other than that I've just gotten good vibes from her posts, the content has been good I've thought as well. It's probably more of a gut read than anything else honestly.

What do you think of her so far?

[GeneralHankerchief]

Not really. I find it pretty hard to read Manasi most of the time. I felt the disillusionment with the state of the game seemed genuine, I share the same sentiment to a degree, but that seemed townie to me at least. Other than that I've just gotten good vibes from her posts, the content has been good I've thought as well. It's probably more of a gut read than anything else honestly.

What do you think of her so far?

I'm coming around more and more to Kage being town, so a lot of folks are dropping for me as a consequence and Manasi is one of the biggest droppers. Yeah she looked good but the more I think about it, the disillusionment thing is reasonably easy to fake and something that's not necessarily indicative of her alignment. She could just have been excited to play a game on the Org in this particular environment and have been ready to pull the wool over people like Monty's and my eyes.

[GeneralHankerchief]

@Dp101, I know you've got RL stuff, but if you could give your input on things sooner rather than later, I'd greatly appreciate it.

[Logic]

There is a reasonable chance I won't be online enough for more than glances during the weekend.

[GeneralHankerchief]

There is a reasonable chance I won't be online enough for more than glances during the weekend.

When do you see yourself logging out for the rest of the phase?

[Dp101]

@Dp101, I know you've got RL stuff, but if you could give your input on things sooner rather than later, I'd greatly appreciate it.

Yeah, sorry, trying to lay stuff out now.

[Dp101]

Not really. I find it pretty hard to read Manasi most of the time. I felt the disillusionment with the state of the game seemed genuine, I share the same sentiment to a degree, but that seemed townie to me at least. Other than that I've just gotten good vibes from her posts, the content has been good I've thought as well. It's probably more of a gut read than anything else honestly.

What do you think of her so far?

I feel like this is... probably something that's said more towards a wolf than a villager? Like, it feels like Csargo was internally going "ok, time to talk about a consensus town, this shouldn't be too hard", and then thought he could get away with saying a fair amount of vague good-sounding things that are similar to what others have said, relying on the fact that people are mostly already agreeing as a way to get out of having to fake too much work. If Manasi was scum with csargo here, I'd expect either a. continuing the "I can't really read manasi" thing throughout the post rather than trying to construct a townread that might link them together, or b. having more specific reasons to give the townread rather than just going with the flow. To expand on the latter option, if I thought I was fairly secure and had an opportunity to talk about a scumbuddy who was doing well, I'd emphasise what has been getting them townread as hard as I can, in order to try and support them more and hopefully promote us as a towncore. Instead, there's this weird non-specific read.

[GeneralHankerchief]

I feel like this is... probably something that's said more towards a wolf than a villager? Like, it feels like Csargo was internally going "ok, time to talk about a consensus town, this shouldn't be too hard", and then thought he could get away with saying a fair amount of vague good-sounding things that are similar to what others have said, relying on the fact that people are mostly already agreeing as a way to get out of having to fake too much work. If Manasi was scum with csargo here, I'd expect either a. continuing the "I can't really read manasi" thing throughout the post rather than trying to construct a townread that might link them together, or b. having more specific reasons to give the townread rather than just going with the flow. To expand on the latter option, if I thought I was fairly secure and had an opportunity to talk about a scumbuddy who was doing well, I'd emphasise what has been getting them townread as hard as I can, in order to try and support them more and hopefully promote us as a towncore. Instead, there's this weird non-specific read.

This is interesting to me, because I consider Manasi to be one of the most likely partners so I'm definitely looking for people's takes on it (and it's why I specifically asked Csar about Manasi in the first place). That said, I'm not entirely certain I agree with your conclusion. Let's keep in mind that at the point when he answered:
a) Csargo thought he was safe/still pretty clear
b) his partner, assuming said partner was NOT Kage, was also probably safe

I would expect him to make something along the lines of this post. It seemed like smooth sailing on D2 for them, they would have gotten another mislynch, and then double LYLO would have been upon everyone on D3 where they could probably just push through one last mislynch and in the meantime clear each other. This reads to me like a little bit of a "nah she's probably fine, let's just move on" to me. Idk though.

[Kagemusha]

This is interesting to me, because I consider Manasi to be one of the most likely partners so I'm definitely looking for people's takes on it (and it's why I specifically asked Csar about Manasi in the first place). That said, I'm not entirely certain I agree with your conclusion. Let's keep in mind that at the point when he answered:
a) Csargo thought he was safe/still pretty clear
b) his partner, assuming said partner was NOT Kage, was also probably safe

I would expect him to make something along the lines of this post. It seemed like smooth sailing on D2 for them, they would have gotten another mislynch, and then double LYLO would have been upon everyone on D3 where they could probably just push through one last mislynch and in the meantime clear each other. This reads to me like a little bit of a "nah she's probably fine, let's just move on" to me. Idk though.

Good thinking GH.When you come through, which i believe as i dont see you as bad scum player and this what you are doing is essentially suicide if Csargo comes out town. If that is indeed the case im looking at two people. Logic, whom Csargo seemed to act in concert day one and Manasi, who is either lazy or scum.

[GeneralHankerchief]

Good thinking GH.When you come through, which i believe as i dont see you as bad scum player and this what you are doing is essentially suicide if Csargo comes out town. If that is indeed the case im looking at two people. Logic, whom Csargo seemed to act in concert day one and Manasi, who is either lazy or scum.

My two likely partners are Dp and Manasi, I think Logic looks a little better and the way he's gone about the game seems townie. We need two clears beyond Sooh, so assuming you're one of them we need a second one to put the game on lock. Can you talk to me more about Logic?

[Manasi]

This is interesting to me, because I consider Manasi to be one of the most likely partners so I'm definitely looking for people's takes on it (and it's why I specifically asked Csar about Manasi in the first place). That said, I'm not entirely certain I agree with your conclusion. Let's keep in mind that at the point when he answered:
a) Csargo thought he was safe/still pretty clear
b) his partner, assuming said partner was NOT Kage, was also probably safe

I would expect him to make something along the lines of this post. It seemed like smooth sailing on D2 for them, they would have gotten another mislynch, and then double LYLO would have been upon everyone on D3 where they could probably just push through one last mislynch and in the meantime clear each other. This reads to me like a little bit of a "nah she's probably fine, let's just move on" to me. Idk though.

Please go look back at the game where the three of us were scum together and compare.

This is a weird read for you to have, especially paired with coming to the conclusion that we're scum together.