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Thread: Hearthstone Mafia [Concluded]
Manasi 12:17 03-27-2018
Damn this is a lot slower than I anticipated. Inclined to vote Monty but I just landed an hour ago and have like 9 hours of class starting soon (tm).

I’m gonna die today.

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Csargo 15:35 03-27-2018
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Damn this is a lot slower than I anticipated. Inclined to vote Monty but I just landed an hour ago and have like 9 hours of class starting soon (tm).

I’m gonna die today.
Don't die pls.

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Logic 15:40 03-27-2018
I gotta say, I am "thanking" Csargo more than I thought I would have. I'm going to guess it is based upon our having a similar sense of humor.

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Zack 17:53 03-27-2018
Announcement

@Dp101 has replaced Snerk

don't discuss substitutions please

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Dp101 18:04 03-27-2018
Hi people! At school currently will be more active once I get home.

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Zack 18:05 03-27-2018
Official Tally as of #45

2 Dp101/Snerk (Sooh, Logic)

1 El Barto (Montmorency)
1 GeneralHankerchief (Kagemusha)
1 Manasi (El Barto)
1 Montmorency (Dp101/Snerk)
1 Sooh (Csargo)

Not Voting: Manasi

Not Posting: GeneralHankerchief



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Zack 18:04 03-28-2018
Official Tally as of #89

3 El Barto (Montmorency, Kagemusha, GeneralHankerchief)

1 Dp101 (Logic)
1 Manasi (El Barto)
1 Montmorency (Dp101/Snerk)
1 Sooh (Csargo)

Not Voting: Manasi, Sooh



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GeneralHankerchief 18:22 03-28-2018
Yikes, didn't realize time was ticking away that quickly.

Uh uh uh.

Vote: Monty

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Zack 19:30 03-28-2018
Official Tally as of #102

3 El Barto (Montmorency, Kagemusha, GeneralHankerchief)

2 Montmorency (Dp101/Snerk, Manasi)

1 Dp101 (Logic)
1 Manasi (El Barto)

Not Voting: Csargo, Sooh



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Sooh 18:35 04-02-2018
Originally Posted by Logic:
I gotta say, I am "thanking" Csargo more than I thought I would have. I'm going to guess it is based upon our having a similar sense of humor.
I find this and subsequent posts by the two of them very unlikely for mafia partners to make in the thread.

Originally Posted by Logic:
Very vague buckets:

Townish
Logic - Myself, naturally I am going to say I am town.
Manasi - seems townier than usual, and I usually suspect Manasi early and often.
Sooh - Feels natural; I can detect no hidden agenda.

Nullish
Csargo - Right now, I'm wearing blinders on him.
Kagemusha - "Bating" for reaction sounds good, but it's also I might do in a followup game if I were scum.

Scumish
El Barto - Slightly confused by the 848% earlier, but I'm assuming it was a typo not something sinister. His coded flavor-text may be what is pinging my scum-dar, but I can't identify why he feels less than genuine this early.
Monty - Seeing his last game has made me super wary of him, and he is in my "usual suspects" bucket until proven otherwise.
GeneralHankerchief - Too little content to base anything on. But I could see a "chaos³" GH this early.
Snerk/Dp101 - Snerk/Dp101 have given little to go on, but I can't find a real reason to vote elsewhere yet.
Null-reading a partner isn't unheard of though.
Originally Posted by Logic:
Wait; Innocent Child? That doesn't seem to fit with the Hearthstone theme at all. I'm not mechanically clearing Sooh just yet.
This is adorable and kind of derp clearing.

Not really feeling a Logic lynch today either. We'll see after I've read the two last.

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Sooh 18:53 04-02-2018
Snerk basically only voted jokes when he was around, so I'm going to discount that.

Originally Posted by Dp101:
This is generally the impression I get from the thread overall btw. Honestly only people I feel confident townreading are Csargo and Manasi.
Could be a partner post I guess. He was responding to a Csargo post at the time though, so I'm unsure.

Originally Posted by Dp101:
This post is odd and wolfy, imo. Once I recall voting format I might put one here.
Why was that Kage post odd and wolfy?

Originally Posted by Dp101:
Welp, lolme. Ignore everything I just said in my last post. Vote: Csargo

If you lied about this, I'm coming for your head tomorrow.
With the level of reaction that was given to GH's suss post of Dp I'm not sure I buy him just trusting GH at face value here. I know I didn't.

The subsequent spew finding effort also seems to me at least to be a flailing attempt to find two more mislynches in a very small pool (myself and GH were already clear, so he sussed first Manasi and then Logic).
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Originally Posted by Dp101:
Moar attempted spew-reading attempts, since I never do this and need to get better at it, and the play is imo clearer if GH is lying so I see more value in trying to catch the scum after Csargo:

The logic read feels somewhat like providing support to a scumbuddy who has improved dramatically and trying to push that point into people's heads. If logic was town here, I feel like scum!csargo would be focussing on lacklustre prior actions rather than trying to paint a picture of improvement.

Vague Manasi read is *noted*, but not sure exactly what it means.

Tries to discredit kage via logic, in a way that strikes me as honestly weird regardless of alignment. Leaving aside the part where it's honestly fairly wrong, I'm not sure what incentive there is as either alignment to make this push based off of logic's. This would make town!logic somewhat more likely, but it's also possible that this is a wolf-team coordinating somewhat clumsily to push a mislynch (although why they wouldn't go on me is a mystery to me).
I just added one of the posts I think is an example of flailing.

Originally Posted by Dp101:
Well, honestly not sure where to go from here. Logic is probably clear, I trust Manasi, sooh is IC so I guess Kage is all I have? Going to wait a bit for others to weigh in first, before I vote anyone.
And this is where that whole read is ???

If Dp is scum here he knows he has to find two mislynches to win. He has one listed, though I guess the next logical (lol) thing to do is to go for the "probably clear" person next.

Idk, Dp, enlighten me perhaps?

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Dp101 06:18 04-03-2018
Originally Posted by Sooh:
Snerk basically only voted jokes when he was around, so I'm going to discount that.



Could be a partner post I guess. He was responding to a Csargo post at the time though, so I'm unsure.



Why was that Kage post odd and wolfy?



With the level of reaction that was given to GH's suss post of Dp I'm not sure I buy him just trusting GH at face value here. I know I didn't.

The subsequent spew finding effort also seems to me at least to be a flailing attempt to find two more mislynches in a very small pool (myself and GH were already clear, so he sussed first Manasi and then Logic).
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I just added one of the posts I think is an example of flailing.



And this is where that whole read is ???

If Dp is scum here he knows he has to find two mislynches to win. He has one listed, though I guess the next logical (lol) thing to do is to go for the "probably clear" person next.

Idk, Dp, enlighten me perhaps?
The reason I found that earlier kage post wolfy was because of how it seemed like a complete, maybe-deliberate misinterpretation of how manasi was acting/feeling. It was clearly just frustration with software not working the way she expected it to, but Kage turned it around into manasi being aggressive generally, when she had displayed no such tendencies up to that point. I really feel like it was a stretch, enough so that it's suspicious.

I really don't get why you call my attempts at finding spew "flailing for mislynches". Like, you say that it's scummy, but what about it makes you think that I can't have been trying to do that analysis as town? Just my later uncertainty, which is present in literally every game that I've played?

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Logic 15:37 04-03-2018
Manasi ISO, part 2

Day 2: Monty killed, Sooh revealed
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Originally Posted by Manasi:
Hahahahahahahaha.

Kage
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Two of my scum reads flipped town.

Cya.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
I scumread Kage before Logic even

ugh
Right after Monty and Sooh's alignments were revealed. I gotta say, this looks more like a towny perspective than a mafia one.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
This seems like exactly what you're doing in continuing to wait for Sooh lmao.
Still pressuring Kage. Consistant, at least.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Please go look back at the game where the three of us were scum together and compare.

This is a weird read for you to have, especially paired with coming to the conclusion that we're scum together.
Responding to GH before his claim/reveal.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Yeah give me a second. I've been really busy and tried posting last night on mobile but the site loaded horribly for me so I just went to sleep.
Responding to Kage about being evasive. This looks like another evasive answer to avoid the question for a moment.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
I've absolutely been developing my own reads moreso than most people in the thread at this point, and if that's something you can't see then I'm not sure what to tell you. I haven't evaded anything besides the questions in posts I literally haven't read yet lmao
Not wrong about reads.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
So I'm put in this shitty spot where both myself and my town read are being pushed by the supposed tracker. If Csargo is scum, fine, that's fair. I didn't super lock clear him anyway. Reading both of our posts and concluding that we are potentially partners, though, is laughable. GH should know better than it. Again, it's fine since we're killing him today but I need you all to re-evaluate on me tomorrow.

Csargo's posting yesterday and last night would have been good enough to warrant a clear read from a lot of people tbh. Wifom alert, but I'm pretty sure if my scum partner gave me a reason to lock them away as town in my reads I would grab it and run.


Rest coming.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
I also don't think a low impact IC dies over a tracker that could get another wolf.

Just my 0.02 at a post that stuck out strangely.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
So then by the start of Day 3, both Csargo and GH will be dead and we can actually evaluate the game without him spewing that Kage's town and I'm mafia.

Good stuff.




Re: Dp, I could easily be getting bamboozled. I still think he's townier than Kage whose only real stance has been [probably] attempting to pocket GH. If GH even tried to verbalize why he thought Kage was town besides "Oh I just feel it really hard," I'd be a lot more inclined to listen or try to understand. From my perspective, though, I'm getting really pretty exclusively by two guys who are just back and forth town reading each other and could definitely be mafia together (barring the claim which is probably self resolving).

Tinfoil is partners bussing through claim but I think if they just continued on they'd have won just as easily.

Scratch that tinfoil.

Everything is fine.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Logic is spewed town by every side of this game.

Nobody's wanted to push there.

/shrug
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Originally Posted by Csargo:
Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief:
Logic, I'm willing to entertain the notion that Kage could be mafia, but not the one that I'm his partner for obvious reasons. Could you present a feasible alternative?

Csargo, you're given a gun with one shot. Who do you kill?
Kage I think at this point.

My PoE is something like this atm:

Csargo
Sooh
Logic
Manasi
Dp101/GH
Kage
Does Csargo put his partner Dp this low in the POE?
Noted for future reference.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Not everyone has pushed on Kage fwiw.

Csargo didn't really actually push at all. It's just been myself and Logic.

Half the game.

Math checks out.
Perhaps I'm being unually thick, but I don't know what "half the game" Manasi is referencing here. Half the players? Half play time? Care to clarift, @Manasi?

Double-Sooh posts, for reference:
Originally Posted by Sooh:
Personally I feel like this Manasi is miles away from scum-Manasi in that previous game.
Originally Posted by Sooh:
Csargo, what do you think?
Csargo "thanks" the latter post, which I first thought was something, but this was after his outing by GH. So looking for partner associations there is null or wifom at best, and aggravating for those solving at worst.

EOD 2: Csargo lynched with GH, Kage, and DP on wagon.
Manasi attempts to vote Kage but is not counted, Logic Votes DP, while Csargo, and Sooh are not voting.

NIGHT 2
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Originally Posted by Manasi:
Good shit.

Still waiting for GH to do something even close to what he did to read Logic for Kage.

Too many people to lynch with too many question marks.

Dp/Sooh pls do something this is driving me a little insane.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Like I'm glad he's come around to Logic being town but I think he (GH) is still going to tell y'all to push on me in the coming days which is the objectively incorrect play.

I don't know if Sooh is ever this much of a non-factor, but I wouldn't be surprised?

I am a little bleh about Dp's activity being so low.

The only thing in Kage's favor was the activity and how he was actually like urging me to post even though all of my reads were already ITT?

I don't fucking know town just needs to posttttttt.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
I'll be at home doing date of birth things for the majority of the day tomorrow, but I should be looking through thread during down time.

Should be around.

It'll be fine.
Triple post by Manasi
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Yeah I didn’t know that I posted shade on you I was also quite drunk lmao.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Think most people would be able to tell I’m incredibly far out of my mafia range right now. It could be as easy as Dp/Csargo or something but if Dp flips town I’m gonna fuckin’ go guns blazing at Kage.

Those posts weren’t shit don’t be mean :(
EON1: GH is killed.

DAY 3
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Originally Posted by Manasi:
Bussing?

He's a flipped villager dude.
This looks like a possible derp-clear, maybe a drunk/hungover post.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Yep, that's basically where I am. Feel bad that the game is locked in my head but I'll try to keep an open mind and reevaluate.
OK, maybe I was too harsh on Manasi earlier when I said it didn't look like she was following her process.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Yeah the mafia had to bus. They're not in the two confirmed people off wagon and it's not in AFK me.

I don't think you'd end up on a random wagon when someone's outted as mafia either.

I think the POE of Kage/Dp is solid so you're fine in LYLO.

If you're mafia you've already won ecks dee.
Responding to me and my (still currently valid) vote on Kage.
But, bussing is a much more likely scenario than being off-wagon or not voting (in Manasi's case, invalid voting.) This seems to point more in favor of Kage/DP than Manasi, and D1 voting all 3 were on flipped villagers that were reasonably competing wagons (as was I, for sake of full disclosure.)

Originally Posted by Manasi:
THAT BEING SAID, mafia probably hops onto the wagon after the claim as opposed to before the claim.

Right?
Manasi's attempted vote for Kage was almost immediately after the day opened, and it looks like she made no attempt to change after the claim. This post looks like it is drawing attention to Manasi's voting record, and I am not liking this.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Don't go down this road.

I'm probably objectively the worst looking when it comes to interactions with Csargo, but you know as much as anyone on this game that this is probably the most engaged/involved I've been in a game on this site. I don't know if you think that would speak to my town equity or mafia equity, but I think it's something to be noted and used for a read as opposed to just my interactions with one of my friends while the thread was deceased.
This is the post I think most needs to be addressed. She's responding to me where I point out the GH interaction with Csargo and who Csargo would kill if he had a one-shot gun. The part that I find problematic is that Manasi also quoted Csargo's post and came to similar conclusions earlier, but now is telling me to not go looking at this further? That reads weird.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
For what it's worth I got my sites all messed up and that was my attempt at a vote until I saw the votecount and I cried.
Could be legitimate, but I read this as more like manipulation of emotions; an attempt to gain our sympathy.
Originally Posted by Manasi:
Also you need to make a decision because it seems like today's the day where everyone is locking in their POE.

And you don't seem to be getting to one. Scumreading three people when you have two lynches is nagl but I hope you figure it out in the next 21 hours.
Absolutely right. I'm not in the best position to be an authority, but each ISO has little things sticking out, and yours seems to have the most thus far. I may not end on you today, as I still have to go through Dp before day-end. But right now, I am leaning you.

@Kage: Stop tunnelling Manasi for a moment. Who is the remaining Mafia?

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Logic 18:55 04-02-2018
Originally Posted by Sooh:
This is adorable and kind of derp clearing.

Not really feeling a Logic lynch today either. We'll see after I've read the two last.
Logic is never cleared unless derp-cleared.

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Sooh 19:11 04-02-2018
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Originally Posted by Kagemusha:
Ok. Lets see.

Barto, votes DP101 for no reason, DP101 is not in the game at least yet. Then votes: Manasi

Logic , votes El Barto for "joke" reasons, Then votes Snerk for "genetic" reasons.

Monty , votes No Lynch.

Sooh, votes Snerk for having too much fun.

Snerk, votes Monty for not being all business.

Csargo, votes Sooh for Zelda reasons.

Tally:
Snerk 2 votes
Manasi 1 votes
El Barto 1 votes
Monty 1 votes
Sooh 1 votes
No Lynch 1 votes

Conclusion. Completely and utterly nothing as of yet. Vote: GH. Because i want to hear from you. It has been far too long.
This post was weird, and I said so at the time. Generally speaking I think that people who try to jumpstart a game into serious mode often are wolves, just because they don't want to be accused later on in the game for not taking things seriously. Then again, that's a generic read which has nothing to do with Kage, and while I haven't played with him a lot I think he tends to be pushed for generic tells and be mislynched because of them quite a lot, so I'm going to file it under NAI.

Originally Posted by Kagemusha:
Sorry Barto. Back to the drawing board. Logic, What are you basing that theory?
Originally Posted by Kagemusha:
Hi Dp101! What do you base your confidence about Csargo and Manasi?
I like the specific digging of those two posts. They weren't "What are your reads and why?" (though he did have one of those as well), but indicated that he wanted to dig a bit deeper.

I dunno. I think I like Kage here.

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Sooh 19:13 04-02-2018
I think I am probably leaning towards a Dp lynch today if nothing changed.

If I'm wrong I still don't think it's Manasi, but Kage and Logic are sort of a toss-up for me after that.

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Sooh 19:14 04-02-2018
Still got more than 24h though, so I'm going to hold off on my vote for a bit and see if anything changes.

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