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End of Night 1


Montmorency was killed.


Announcement: Sooh is the Town Innocent Child!



Living Players: 7
@Csargo
@Dp101
@GeneralHankerchief
@Kagemusha
@Logic
@Manasi
@Sooh

It is now Day Two.

Voting ends in:

You can post now.

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Just kidding.

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Well, that was not expected. Two of my top 3 suspects are mechanically cleared in one update. Completely back to the drawing board.

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Logic, in your wall right before the kill you said Csargo was a suspect of yours conditionally only upon your nightkill. Since this didn't happen, otherwise you said he was fine. Yet in your earlier reads, fairly close to deadline, you had him as a pretty hard null:



What changed?

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Wait; Innocent Child? That doesn't seem to fit with the Hearthstone theme at all. I'm not mechanically clearing Sooh just yet.

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No, it's a mod clear. Sooh is fine.

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Clarification: I meant I wasn't changing my opinion on Csargo if I was not the nightkill. The nightkill being me would have led me to believe that Csargo was scum, due to my statement in an earlier game that "I consider it a personal win to be the nightkill D1" or something similar. Csargo at the time said something to the effect of "I hope to let you win when I am scum."

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Right, let me clarify factoring out the nightkill thing that didn't come to pass. There was part of your wall from 15 minutes ago that says "I don't suspect Csar if I'm still alive" leading me to believe that you have him as town. But earlier you had him as null, and I was just wondering what caused you to upgrade him.

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Yeah: He's still null, so I still don't suspect him, but I'm not taking my eyes off either. He's yet given me pause, but I haven't seen something oozing towniness. I am positive I did not say "he's fine."
My gaze was going to be focused on Monty/Sooh/Kage, as they were my top suspects, but it looks like I have one worth looking at.

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Dude.

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To be fair, I had to go back and check the rules for bastard mechanics and false alignment reveals before I could believe it.

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Hahahahahahahaha.

Kage

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Yes? What you have in mind?

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Two of my scum reads flipped town.

Cya.

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So because you were twice wrong it makes you right third time? Dont be lazy and instead make a case.

So far i see you copying what logic said earlier. Lazy, thus scummy.

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Sooh confirmed town, what is this witchcraft? What is this child doing playing mafia?

I can't ever read Monty, I should just give up.

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I'll make more of an effort when I wake up tomorrow morning guys. I'll try to like, read.

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Vote: Dp101

Still don't think it's Kage.

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First post: not super content driven. Could be an analysis, could be a smokescreen. Sooh called this weird for anyone but Kage earlier, so this may be worth investigating further. Vote for GH tells little at this point.
Replying to GH about his feelings upon getting a role. Talks about being sentimental. If I knew more about Kage, this might be a better datapoint. As it stands, this reads like it could be partners speaking.
Replyng to two of GH's posts. (GH compliments Kage's mafia skills, comments on being sentimental, and comments on Csargo and Sooh being likely town, Manasi just shy of that level) Removes vote from GH calling him likely town because he liked his reaction. Reads Manasi as "possibly confused scum, but town for now", and gives reads on Csargo and Logic (myself,) hinting he thinks we are possible scum partners or otherwise linked. I find the latter to be mechanically impossible with this few number of players. I'm casting significant suspicion on Kage for this. It also leads my to think that GH is Kage's most likely partner, for now. Pending GH's ISO, we'll see, but so far I'm 1 for 3, and my 1 correct wasn't solid.
Explains his intent. +town points, but possible ruse as scum to repeat
Responding to Csargo, who is critical of Kage's list. NAI.
Encourages GH to push Barto. (GH agrees.) If these guys are a scum team, this is brazen. Teaming seems less likely now.
Banter with me about my grammar nazi traits.
Asks me a direct question, and I post my "vague buckets" response.
Near EOD post about Barto.
He answers his own question moments after I answer it for him.
More banter with GH. I repeat myself, these two feel teamed, but I know for a fact that GH is smarter than this, and I suspect Kage is as well. If teamed, this is super brazen.
EOD
Responding to my postcount analysis. Probing?
DP townreads Csargo and Manasi, the latter everyone seems to have done so, and Kage is asking for reasons. I give Kage town points for this.
Responding to Manasi's query. I'm not convinced that Kage did a whole lot of legwork in the day-phase, but maybe I'm missing the forest for the trees. I saw one attempt to ferret out mafia that didn't work all that well, and Kage agrees that his plan didn't return any positive results.
Responding to Manai's plight about multiquotes. I would normally like this question, and probably pose it myself, but because I am seeing Kage through a mafia-filter, this looks suspect to me.
G**D*** it. This is good, but makes it harder for me to read Kage. This I like. Mafia or Town, I like this sentiment. And It's hard for me to read this as mafia. I'm going to give him a "good sportsman" read here, because this tells me nothing otherwise. There may be info here, but I will not be able to read anything into this beyond "Hey Kage, is a cool dude."
NAI
Responding to GH's question about who he suspects before the kill comes in.
Makes a claim about being consistent. Thats more wolf thinking, in my book, but it could just be how Kage shapes his worldview. After the Barto flip, he is unsure about his previous reads.
He mentions me (he likes my ISOs, is convinced if I am Mafia I am playing well) and Csargo he says he can never read properly, so apply direct pressure. He admits to omitting Sooh, and says she may be slipping under the radar. If wolf, this is a setup to deep-threat mislynch, methinks? I'm unsure, but colored glasses have me thinking about it like that. Says Manasi is masking with behavior (I feel this is Manasi's best town game so far, so this gives Kage a mafia point in my ledger.) I agree that DP/Snerk did not give him much to go on. Ends with his assessment of Monty, which also looks like "I can't read him unless_____." Tells GH he will get him, if he is indeed mafia GH can't hide from Kage. Asks for more to work with. Yup, we all need that.
Csargo sarcastically says he deserves more heat because Kage specifically can't read him. Kage suggests I do Csargo's iso soon (maybe later; 30+ posts to quote, compile, and analyze, and I don't have time for that right now.)
[b]EON[b]
Responding to Manasi's laughter. Not sure what to make of this interaction at all. Manasi might be gloating (the first potential mafia-sign I've seen from her) and Kage seems to be keeping his cards close to his chest. Could go either way from this.
Here he shades Manasi for parroting me. The second possible Manasi scum sign, and a second ISO of her may bear fruit. But, Kage isn't making a good case here either: He's inferring something that Manasi does not seem to be saying herself. (she looks to be attempting a vote, but she has only bolded Kage's name, thus not actually voting for him. Not sure if honest mistake due to other-site habits, or something else. Kage picks up on this as well, and calls Manasi scummy directly.

Not yet ready for a vote, but leaning Kage and GH.

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Just so this doesn't get lost. After reading the ISO, hes been shading Manasi from nearly the beginning, but not voting for her. So I will Vote: Kage now, but I want to make sure you all see that I think he's a pretty swell dude. If I am wrong, Thunderdome me, because clearly I am not helping town.

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When did this happen? I don't recall this at all.

What changed your mind in 15 minutes Logic?

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Oh, never mind, I misread that last sentence.

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I scumread Kage before Logic even

ugh

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Logic, I'm willing to entertain the notion that Kage could be mafia, but not the one that I'm his partner for obvious reasons. Could you present a feasible alternative?

Csargo, you're given a gun with one shot. Who do you kill?

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Official Tally as of #234

1 Dp101 (GeneralHankerchief)
1 Kagemusha (Logic)

Not Voting: Csargo, Kagemusha, Manasi, Sooh

Not Posting: Dp101

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Kage I think at this point.

My PoE is something like this atm:

Csargo
Sooh
Logic
Manasi
Dp101/GH
Kage

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I'd put you higher than Dp101 purely because I can get a better read on you going forward than I can Dp101.

I feel fairly good about Logic currently, because his most recent stuff is pretty inline with what I remember from other games. I had him way lower initially, but his current engagement/posts have been excellent imo.

Manasi feels good at this point.

I think I'm usually pretty good at reading you, but that's probably wrong. You going along with the Barto vote so easily sort of put me off a bit. Nothing you've done since has raised my read of you all that much.

Dp101 is sort of meh hard to gauge with so little coming out from him.

Kage's summary post was odd to me, but that seems to be par for the course for D1 lists. Thought the Barto push was weird, I clearly wasn't a fan.

I think Logic's quote sums up my thoughts on Kage pretty well.

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Thank you for the ISO Logic. Like i said earlier if you are scum. You are playing extremely well. Your process seems very good, but conclusion is wrong. You build a case against me based on connection with GH, which you seem to be doubting very much in your Iso. So you seem to be arriving into wrong conclusion with genuine thought process, unlike Manasi who seems to be trying to use momentum in order to push who she wants to be lynched. I want to hear from the only confirmed townie aka Sooh before pushing what i have in mind.

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Ok, thanks.

So overall it would be safe to say that you don't really have a particularly strong scumread on Kage but he's still a bit worse-looking than everyone else?

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Here's Dp's full amount of posts since subbing in:



I don't think this is town Dp. I just don't. I get that he's rusty. I get that he's been super busy IRL. I also don't care. The thing I look for with Dp is that super pure tone. That's not a feature that really needs extended immersion in the game to make itself known, like Logic's effort for example. It just naturally rises to the surface. And it hasn't here.

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