Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
I was referring to today, murder is wrong [and always has been to god and always will be]. In your hypothetical situation it would still have been wrong but Adam simply would not have been guilty for it in front of god.
If Adam (in my hypothetical situation) hadn't been guilty of murder, than murder couldn't have been a sin. Ergo: murder in paradise was legal.

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
and i have been saying dont look at verses but the bible as a whole and than it becomes a constant source.
A whole consists of parts. If parts do not fit into the whole why are they kept there?

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
You want to ignore section that would clarify your seemingly wanted contradictions.
seemingly wanted = shrewedly detected.

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
no, it turns gods word into a sectional divided book for quick easy references [not my doing but i do enjoy it]. you by making those numbers elevated to gods word create false theologies and create contradictions [as do Christians].
I am not here to defend mans numbers but gods word.
Bible wasn't only divided into chapters by men, but also written down by men, edited by men, translated by men. Which makes it a hearsay which in turn presupposes existence of mistakes, exaggerations, slantings in it.

Quote Originally Posted by total relism View Post
Or both were made in his image
So God looks both like a man and woman at the same time?

Quote Originally Posted by Crandar View Post
A couple of thousands of years is a gross exaggeration. At that time, writing wasn't even introduced to the Jewish communities. Even if we take the oldest texts into consideration, it was less than a millennium. In what concerns the newest ones, it was a couple of centuries.
You are technically right. I was never interested in the exact date of WRITING DOWN the Old Testament and I believe it isn't one date, its constituents might have been written at different dates. I meant not writing it down, but historical tradition and events described in it, which go back several millenia BC. Yet thank you for the correction.