They finally reached a compromise!
"After 27 years of talks - and many protests - they have settled on the name Republic of North Macedonia, or Severna Makedonija in Macedonian."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44401643
They finally reached a compromise!
"After 27 years of talks - and many protests - they have settled on the name Republic of North Macedonia, or Severna Makedonija in Macedonian."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-44401643
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I have been waiting for this.
Cornishfolk were recently angered by depiction of scones with jam atop cream, which is the custom of those incomers in Devonshire. The venerable tradition carried on by a nigh-unbroken 100 generations of the Kernowyon is jam first, then cream.
#JamFirst
If only PVC were here.The National Trust's Lanhydrock in Bodmin angered Cornish locals by depicting the delicacy in the rival Devon tradition on a Facebook post.
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The member of staff responsible for the post "had been reprimanded and marched back over the Tamar" to neighbouring county Devon, the Trust said.
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Vitiate Man.
History repeats the old conceits
The glib replies, the same defeats
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Man, the butthurt is going to be immense on both radical sides. Our local extremists have organised a rally for the 8th of July.
It's not going to be as massive as the previous ones I suspect, but still, my kitsch expectations are very high.
Let's hope for the best, I want generals praising the dictatorship and priests excommunicating the government.
Personally, I am moderately optimist, at least until the deal is confirmed and ratified. I don't know for Northern Macedonia, but our weak government has a great reputation of backtracking.
The deal is off:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...row-zoran-zaev
*facepalm*
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
Let's not be dramatic. As Guardian clarifies he cannot stop it. The procedure is simple:
1. The Parliament votes for the agreement.
2. If the vote is positive, then it is asked from the president to sign it.
3. If the president refuses, then the parliament votes again.
4. If the second vote is also positive, then the deal has been ratified, regardless of the president's wishes.
His refusal complicates the issue a bit, but it hasn't condemned the agreement.
Would be a shame if it doesn work out. I can understand why the Greeks aren't very happy with what is basicly a falsification of their history. Calling it Northern-Macedonia isn't even that far off everybody should be happy really
There's no falsification of history involved. The agreement explicitly states that modern and ancient Macedonians are different people, condemns the Antiquization campaign of Gruevsky and describes the Macedonian language as Slavic. Even if there was, getting triggered over conflicting nationalist narratives is oversensitive, in my honest opinion.
Sincerely, it's much better than what I expected and I consider the two parties in power as jokes.
If some Athenians that used to call us Bulgarian savages and a couple of Northerners of actually Pontic descent, whose ancestors basically spoke Turkic instead of Greek, are feel salty, that's their own little problem. Meanwhile, I'm going to enjoy their delicious tears.
I can understand how it can be seen as such. I am not going to disregard the sentiments and just call it petty nationalism as some do (not talking about you guys)
Last edited by Fragony; 06-17-2018 at 20:19.
I wouldn't call that "petty":
https://news.sky.com/story/protests-...r-row-11407740
Our riot police is notoriously brutal. They beat down journalists and gas pensioners. Usually the far right tabloids applaud the use of violence against communist troublemakers, but yesterday they didn't seem to enjoy the police's brave efforts to impose serenity. Ironic, isn't it?
Crandar, are you in/from FYROM? I thought you were Greek for some reason.
Days since the Apocalypse began
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I am, why did you think otherwise? The comment about "Bulgarian savages" was a reference to the attitude of certain Southern Greeks towards their Northern compatriots (I am a Northerner). It demonstrates their hypocrisy. These are the riots I described above.
http://www.ekathimerini.com/229750/a...espes-ceremony
Last edited by Crandar; 06-18-2018 at 18:06.
I understand now. Thank you.
Days since the Apocalypse began
"We are living in space-age times but there's too many of us thinking with stone-age minds" | How to spot a Humanist
"Men of Quality do not fear Equality." | "Belief doesn't change facts. Facts, if you are reasonable, should change your beliefs."
Each one has his own criteria, but for me it's Mount Olympus. South of it, there is nothing but dark-skinned barbarians that don't even know how to use the word souvlaki correctly.
Last edited by Crandar; 06-19-2018 at 09:57.
"The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman
"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken
https://www.occrp.org/ru/home/28-ccw...t-in-macedonia
Did anyone have any doubts?
Oh man, PAOK president in international news! Last time was when he stormed in a match carrying a weapon. I'm so proud of him.
The weapon thing is true, I guess the same applies to this implication also. I doubt his objective was the promotion of Kremlin's interests. He's investing a lot in the region and he doesn't hesitate to meddle in domestic affairs, in order to encourage or force politicians to follow his wishes. My favourite PAOK president since Voulinos and Batman (Batatoudis). By the way, do you support any Ukrainian team, Girlandir? We have played against quite a few since the collapse of the USSR.
I believe any trouble in the EU corresponds to the Kremlin's interests.
Unlike western tradition most Ukrainians support any team playing against others in UEFA tournaments. So do I. But I don't have any favorite Ukrainian team since they are really not Ukrainian judging by the people who play there. Still I'm more predisposed to Dynamo Kiev.
The referendum is a no-go. What's next?
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-45699749
Good news, both the Macedonian and the Greek Parliaments approved the agreement. Fun fact: In the latest violence, many Greek Alex Jones used the image of a brown attacker to claim that the incident was provoked by African mercenaries paid by the government. Turns out the guy was a dark-skinned ultra-nationalist from Naoussa, who was immensely triggered at being described as a "negro". Ain't gonna lie, the deliciously salty tears of the far-right are by far the most positive outcome of the compromise.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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