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    Quote Originally Posted by MoKus View Post
    Yes. The pointer is red wherever I try to set it. What do you mean with question marked blank.
    I note the word try. Does that mean you have not been able to move / reset it ?

    My question ( marked Blank (sic) in your quote ) was an observation re your comment. When the pointer shows as RED you are generally NOT allowed to click on the Map at that point ( for whatever reason ). Having never tried to place the Reinforcements Flag in the "Red Zone" of the Map, I am uncertain if the game will or will not allow it. If it does, then that is likely to be the source of your problem.

    [ NB: The Red Zone referred to here is the area of the map that you are not allowed to move to ( unless Routing or Withdrawing off the board ). It's also the point where your troops will stop chasing enemy units that are Routing or Withdrawing, as those troops can no longer be Rallied by the AI. ]

    Is the Reinforcement button "Greyed Out" or Coloured ?
    As advised previously ( by Stazi ), If the former, there are no reinforcements available. If you have more than 16 Troop units in the province, the button should however, be Coloured.

    [ As stated by the others previously, a Reinforcement unit cannot enter until one of the original 16 units leaves the Map. Pressing on the Reinforcements Button automatically enters the Reinforcement onto the bottom of the Screen in the Units area, once the on map units are 15 or less. So you wait until the units drop to 15 ( or less ) and then press the Reinforcements button. You can see when the units total drops, as a space appears on the extreme right of the units area. However, the reinforcement may not appear in the obvious vacated slot ( that extreme right hand one ) but is likely to appear amongst the other unit labels ( perchance in the actual slot vacated by the leaving unit ? ). That point certainly confuses me for several seconds whenever I bring a unit on. ]

    Hmmm. Late thought - is your reinforcement unit a Siege unit ? These units CANNOT be brought on as Reinforcements ( as DRONE said... ) !
    Last edited by DEB8; 10-02-2018 at 00:23.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEB8 View Post
    I note the word try. Does that mean you have not been able to move / reset it ?
    No. I can set the flag in everyplace on map. The pointer before setting is however red.
    Quote Originally Posted by DEB8 View Post
    My question ( marked Blank (sic) in your quote ) was an observation re your comment. When the pointer shows as RED you are generally NOT allowed to click on the Map at that point ( for whatever reason ). Having never tried to place the Reinforcements Flag in the "Red Zone" of the Map, I am uncertain if the game will or will not allow it. If it does, then that is likely to be the source of your problem.
    That is strange because the pointer is red yet I can set the flag on everyplace that I want.
    Quote Originally Posted by DEB8 View Post
    [ NB: The Red Zone referred to here is the area of the map that you are not allowed to move to ( unless Routing or Withdrawing off the board ). It's also the point where your troops will stop chasing enemy units that are Routing or Withdrawing, as those troops can no longer be Rallied by the AI. ]
    I see. I normally click on somewhere in center of map.
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    Is the Reinforcement button "Greyed Out" or Coloured ?
    Colored.
    Quote Originally Posted by DEB8 View Post
    As advised previously ( by Stazi ), If the former, there are no reinforcements available. If you have more than 16 Troop units in the province, the button should however, be Coloured.
    I have more that 16 units in the province. I see that I have free spot in middle of battle. I first set the flag and then click on reinforcement button but nothing happens.
    Quote Originally Posted by DEB8 View Post
    [ As stated by the others previously, a Reinforcement unit cannot enter until one of the original 16 units leaves the Map. Pressing on the Reinforcements Button automatically enters the Reinforcement onto the bottom of the Screen in the Units area, once the on map units are 15 or less. So you wait until the units drop to 15 ( or less ) and then press the Reinforcements button. You can see when the units total drops, as a space appears on the extreme right of the units area. However, the reinforcement may not appear in the obvious vacated slot ( that extreme right hand one ) but is likely to appear amongst the other unit labels ( perchance in the actual slot vacated by the leaving unit ? ). That point certainly confuses me for several seconds whenever I bring a unit on. ]
    I have free spot yet I cannot reinforce.
    Quote Originally Posted by DEB8 View Post
    Hmmm. Late thought - is your reinforcement unit a Siege unit ? These units CANNOT be brought on as Reinforcements ( as DRONE said... ) !
    No they are not siege unit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoKus View Post
    No. I can set the flag in everyplace on map. The pointer before setting is however red.
    I cannot recall if the pointer before setting is Red or Yellow, but I would think it should be Yellow. I am surprised it sets when the pointer is Red ( but I may be mistaken re this ).

    I normally click on somewhere in center of map.
    That is a bad move, as you cannot gain control of the reinforcement until it reaches the flag ! It should be placed between the point it occupies at the start of a battle and the edge of the Map behind your Army. Note the Reinforcement/s will always enter the Map behind the initial Army position ( and usually near the centre of that Map edge ). Generally speaking , if you do not change the initial position of the Army, you don't really need to change the Flag position. If you later march your Army to ( say ) the right hand side of the Map, it becomes sensible to move the Flag towards that side too ( whilst still keeping it behind the Army )...

    I first set the flag and then click on reinforcement button but nothing happens.
    It is best ( IMHO ) to reset the flag as soon as the battle commences ( if you wish to move it ) ; rather than at the point the Reinforcement can arrive. Subsequent moves ( if made ) should ( IMHO ) only reflect the Armies moves ( e.g. Left, Right and Forward ).

    I have free spot yet I cannot reinforce.
    Hmmm, At this point I still think it's linked to the colour of the pointer. I think this is a "subtle" reminder that you are doing something wrong. I am unsure exactly what though...

    No they are not siege unit.
    OK.

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    I have just reviewed the pointer details ( re moving the Reinforcements "Flag" ).

    It is first and foremost a standardish pointer with a few extra "bits". The actual pointer is smaller than normal, and has four Yellow marks above it ( two on each side ), in a design which is the same as the "in battle" command cursor. It also has a small red arrow to the left of the main pointer and below the left hand side Yellow marks. Is this what you have ?

    You can indeed place the Flag anywhere on the map ! I suspect therefore, that it is possible to place it inside the "Red Zone" I referred to before - this IMHO may result in units not being able to enter the map ( but I may be wrong )... IMHO you should always avoid placing it too close to the Maps edge ( particularly if it is out of sight of your initial position ).

    You say the Reinforcements button is Coloured ( as it should be ) ; however, do you also have the Green writing on the left hand side of the Battle Map ( just above the Unit Information Panels ) ?

    [ This gives some information regarding the current standing of your Reinforcements ; listing the total number of units available, the number of units "mustering" towards the "Flag" and the number of units awaiting orders at the "Flag" ( or words to that effect ). By the way, does this list the correct total number of your Reinforcements ? ]

    If these items are as they should be and you indeed have less than 16 units on the battlefield, then the first reinforcement units Unit Panel should appear as soon as you click on the reinforcements button. You are clicking on the correct button I presume ? i.e. the one that is on the left of the pair that are on the Top Right ( slightly away from the other top line buttons ) ?

    [ Also note that as you appear to be placing the Flag towards the centre of the Map, the Reinforcement unit/s will take a long time to get there... ]

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    Earlier today I reviewed the pointer details ( etc. ) that I had advised you... My information was not as accurate as it should have been. My abject apologies re this.

    It is first and foremost a standardish pointer with a few extra "bits". The actual pointer is smaller than normal, and has four Yellow marks above it ( two on each side ), in a design which is the same as the "in battle" command cursor. It also has a small red arrow to the left of the main pointer and below the left hand side Yellow marks.
    Your pointer should be roughly the same ( in both size and appearance ), irrespective of the battle "screen" you are on, but it is "generally" as described above.

    ...listing the total number of units available, the number of units "mustering" towards the "Flag" and the number of units awaiting orders at the "Flag" ( or words to that effect ).
    This should read : ...listing the total number of units available, the number of units waiting to be summoned and the number of units assembling.

    Sorry about that - poor recall !

    ...then the first reinforcement units Unit Panel should appear as soon as you click on the reinforcements button.
    This should read : To enter a reinforcement you first need to click on the coloured Reinforcement button and then ( when the new top row of buttons appears ), you click on the "Bring on Reinforcements" button ( once for each unit that you have a "space" for ). This button is sited immediately to the right of the Flag button. Units will then appear in the Unit Panel area.

    What can I say re that - OOPS ! Sorry...

    Do you have the Green Writing on the left just above the Unit Panels ? Are you attempting to enter your reinforcements as noted above ( or are you just clicking on the first button only ) ?
    Last edited by DEB8; 10-04-2018 at 22:50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEB8 View Post
    Earlier today I reviewed the pointer details ( etc. ) that I had advised you... My information was not as accurate as it should have been. My abject apologies re this.


    Your pointer should be roughly the same ( in both size and appearance ), irrespective of the battle "screen" you are on, but it is "generally" as described above.


    This should read : ...listing the total number of units available, the number of units waiting to be summoned and the number of units assembling.

    Sorry about that - poor recall !


    This should read : To enter a reinforcement you first need to click on the coloured Reinforcement button and then ( when the new top row of buttons appears ), you click on the "Bring on Reinforcements" button ( once for each unit that you have a "space" for ). This button is sited immediately to the right of the Flag button. Units will then appear in the Unit Panel area.

    What can I say re that - OOPS ! Sorry...

    Do you have the Green Writing on the left just above the Unit Panels ? Are you attempting to enter your reinforcements as noted above ( or are you just clicking on the first button only ) ?
    Thanks. So I should first click on "brings on reinforcement".

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoKus View Post
    Thanks. So I should first click on "brings on reinforcement".
    "To enter a reinforcement you first need to click on the coloured Reinforcement button and then ( when the new top row of buttons appears ), you click on the "Bring on Reinforcements" button ( once for each unit that you have a "space" for )".

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    Quote Originally Posted by DEB8 View Post
    I cannot recall if the pointer before setting is Red or Yellow, but I would think it should be Yellow. I am surprised it sets when the pointer is Red ( but I may be mistaken re this ).
    Yes, I don't understand it either.
    Quote Originally Posted by DEB8 View Post
    That is a bad move, as you cannot gain control of the reinforcement until it reaches the flag ! It should be placed between the point it occupies at the start of a battle and the edge of the Map behind your Army. Note the Reinforcement/s will always enter the Map behind the initial Army position ( and usually near the centre of that Map edge ). Generally speaking , if you do not change the initial position of the Army, you don't really need to change the Flag position. If you later march your Army to ( say ) the right hand side of the Map, it becomes sensible to move the Flag towards that side too ( whilst still keeping it behind the Army )...
    Thanks for the tip.
    Quote Originally Posted by DEB8 View Post
    It is best ( IMHO ) to reset the flag as soon as the battle commences ( if you wish to move it ) ; rather than at the point the Reinforcement can arrive. Subsequent moves ( if made ) should ( IMHO ) only reflect the Armies moves ( e.g. Left, Right and Forward ).
    Thanks for the tip.
    Quote Originally Posted by DEB8 View Post
    Hmmm, At this point I still think it's linked to the colour of the pointer. I think this is a "subtle" reminder that you are doing something wrong. I am unsure exactly what though...
    That is alright for now. I am playing at medium difficulty right now and it is hard for me to win any battle so I most of the time run the battle automatically unless I want to do some practice.

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