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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47941794

    The current state of Notre Dame makes it a possibility that the structure of the Cathedral may collapse, although the BBC are currently downplaying this.

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    I am currently watching this on TV and I'm in disbelief - initially there was this contained fire in the south then it slowly took over the entire cathedral. The north tower is in danger right now.
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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-...-the-cathedral

    This explains some of the underlying issues with the structure, parts of the Cathedral were being held up by wood and metal paces which may now burn or otherwise fail.
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    Even if it doesn't collapse, buttressing the remaining shell will take months if not years... the horrible decision of going quickly but less carefully or slow and methodically and hoping that time and even rain doesn't cause a collapse.

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    The BBC is reporting that the main structure is now safe, but Im still rather upset about this. I was so looking forward to seeing it when I visited next month.
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    Apparently either some or most of the artwork was saved?

    Hopefully they can meticulously reconstruct what was lost and eventually the 2019 cathedral will seem just as monumentally present as the 1831 cathedral seems to us.

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    Apparently most of the artwork is safe - relics are preserved.
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    Well shall have to see, but the latest images show that some of the vaulting in the nave has collapsed. Like most medieval Cathedrals Notre Dame's wooden roof rested on stone vaulting, the actual ceiling of the cathedral. The vaulting exerts an outwards pressure which is countered by the inward pressure of the flying buttresses. Once the structure is weakened by fire the vaulting can collapse, which means there's no counterpoint to the flying buttresses, leading to a risk of an inward collapse of the entire nave.

    This sort of things can, of course, be countered by bracing etc. or (in an emergency) possibly undermining buttresses (although this could also cause the whole structure to twist and collapse. One possible bright spot here is that Notre Dame was already undergoing huge renovations which means there should be a Cathedral architect on-site with a thorough understanding of the structure and geometry of the cathedral.

    The whole structure will take days to fully cool and settle, so it could be a while before we know the true extent of the damage. Between then and now there's nothing to do but hope and pray.
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