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    Might as well have a thread.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...ied09.2019.pdf
    https://www.lawfareblog.com/timeline...kraine-scandal
    (Note that this was not a transcript but a summary "memorandum" of a 30-minute call.)


    But again, this was being reported since as far back as April and Trump commits and repeats impeachable offenses on an ongoing basis. Do you masochists find this more entertaining than reading progressive Democrats' sweeping new antipoverty package?
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    Better hope this goes nowhere, dont think the dems will survive giving trump a clinton boost.

    Not that they arent shaking themselves apart as it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Might as well have a thread.

    https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-conten...ied09.2019.pdf
    https://www.lawfareblog.com/timeline...kraine-scandal
    (Note that this was not a transcript but a summary "memorandum" of a 30-minute call.)


    But again, this was being reported since as far back as April and Trump commits and repeats impeachable offenses on an ongoing basis. Do you masochists find this more entertaining than reading progressive Democrats' sweeping new antipoverty package?
    I think someone forgot it was their turn to babysit Trump. I guess that it was their reasoning that no one takes him seriously, so he couldn't possibly do any harm.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Better hope this goes nowhere, dont think the dems will survive giving trump a clinton boost.

    Not that they arent shaking themselves apart as it is.
    I like how you finally gave into the "showing it to the libtards" mentality. You can't get your stupid way, so the best way to deal with it is a protracted temper tantrum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    I think someone forgot it was their turn to babysit Trump. I guess that it was their reasoning that no one takes him seriously, so he couldn't possibly do any harm.
    No, it indicates that the old narrative of "adults in the room" mitigating Trump's impulses is now thoroughly bogus, if it was ever anything other than horsecrap. Secretary of State, National Security Advisor, apparently the Attorney General, and any number of other upper-level officials watched - at best passively watched along - as Trump engaged in this and other banana republic lawlessness. There is no White House, only Trump.

    I'm still upset over losing my other post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CrossLOPER View Post
    I like how you finally gave into the "showing it to the libtards" mentality. You can't get your stupid way, so the best way to deal with it is a protracted temper tantrum.
    I like how you have remained determined to not react to what I have actually said but instead what you seem to want to believe I have said.

    Your side is doomed, I'm getting my way and I am gloating. No tantrum here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    I like how you have remained determined to not react to what I have actually said but instead what you seem to want to believe I have said.
    It borders on "woohoo dem lebturds r gettin a likkin", so I didn't respond; there was nothing to respond to.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greyblades View Post
    Your side is doomed, I'm getting my way and I am gloating. No tantrum here.
    I would like to point out that "my side" wants things like global stability and standards ensuring sustainability, as well as general equality. Your side appears to include blond orangutans screaming about- you know what? I'm not sure anymore. Brexit would objectively weaken the UK and complicate the EU-US union, which would weaken both in terms of being able to counter the RF and PRC.

    If "your side" wants this, then I guess you are actively working against the interests of your country.
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    I just gotta hope that the inquiry gets people from within the White House and forces them to corroborate the memo and whistle blower's report as well as perhaps the actual transcript that was sent to the more classified server. If the impeachment vote goes forward but on essentially party lines within the House I don't think the Republican Senators would dare break rank and give enough votes to remove POTUS from office.

    It'll be interesting if the WH tries to use executive privilege to protect itself from an Impeachment investigation. It shouldn't stand as there is precedent from previous impeachment trials but still, convention hasn't been the norm with Trump in office.

    I'll also hope that they do more closed door inquires if possible. While I'd like to see and hear the soundbites as well I'd much rather have the different committees and the people being questioned not working to get the right soundbite to add in the evening news or get a positive tweet from the president.

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