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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    I think you're very wrong. See, the Yes/No distinction here is not meaningful so it's really a gloss for your disagreements on How with the far-left. It's fine to be straightforward, though implying that you agree more on "helping the vulnerable" with the likes of Cameron than Corbyn is eyebrow-raising.

    Is this a roundabout way of saying you pine for the legend of Butskellism? They say Theresa May was a Butskellist, in her heart of hearts...
    I was thinking of the likes of the SWP and other such groups that Corbyn is pals with, rather than Corbyn himself. I don't agree with Corbyn on much, and Brexit apart, I don't disagree with him on much either. That's because Corbyn himself doesn't have the wit to actively pursue any argument, hence his tendency to disappear from public view. His personal views are derived from approved literature without any thought of how they apply to the real world, or from osmosis with his friends in the far left groups such as the SWP, the various Communist parties, etc. You have an idealistic view of Corbyn that doesn't accord with reality. Have a look at the people in his trusted group. Start with his chief of staff. Have a look at his friends in StW as well, another illustration of his lack of wit. Corbyn isn't truly bad as such. His friends are, but he's not. He's merely stupid, and their puppet. A bit like Boris Johnson, who is lazy (which Corbyn is too, although nowhere near Johnson's level), and the puppet of his handlers.

    And BTW, before you accuse me of McCarthyite smearing his friends with membership of Communist parties, I'm being literal and documentedly accurate with my labelling of them as such. His campaign chief was in one of them for decades, while his chief of staff was expelled from one for being too extremist.

    And BBTW, I used to read literature of these groups in the past, so I'd imagine I'd have a better idea of their history than someone who hasn't. Funnily enough, a number of the current far right's supporters used to be believers in the far left. It's as though their raison d'etre is to strongly oppose, and when they can't get their way by opposing the far left's pet enemies, they switch tack and oppose the far right's pet enemies and have better success, and find contentment.

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