Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
Reminds me of Bill Clinton. Clinton was known to lie when needed (frequently) but the media so loved him for how interestingly he spun his tales that it became a hallmark of his style. From what I read in some articles, Johnson garners that same fascinated amazement with what he is willing to say. To the extent that prevarication is part of effective leadership...
The media hated Bill Clinton. Washington journalists were always talking about how they wanted to "take him down."


Idaho, it is not as obvious that Corbyn can't be anti-Semitic as you seem to think. You only need to roast one goat kebab to be a goatfucker. Broad sympathy or suspicion is also racism, and there is clearly a problem if perhaps even a majority of Labour-supporting Jews judge either the party or the man anti-Semitic. In the first place if Corbyn wants to help dispel these unsavory auras he should learn to stop compartmentalizing and learn intersectionality. Just because someone is marginalized, sympathetic, or allied in one respect (e.g. Israeli repression) does not mean their whole worldview or character needs to be embraced or excused. His compartmentalizing mindset is, I would assume, also what contributes to that brain rot common among the nominal hard left of uncritically venerating nasty governments around the world so long as they are seen to be hostile in some way to the perennial imperialists in Europe and the USA. But I am disappointed by PVC's continued pretextual affective attacks on leftists.

What are your thoughts on the updated Labour manifesto?

Here's a comics guy's take on the election:

Here’s something you don’t see every day: an internet-averse anarchist announcing on social media that he’ll be voting Labour in the December elections. But these are unprecedented times.
I’ve voted only once in my life, more than forty years ago, being convinced that leaders are mostly of benefit to no one save themselves. That said, some leaders are so unbelievably malevolent and catastrophic that they must be strenuously opposed by any means available. Put simply, I do not believe that four more years of these rapacious, smirking right-wing parasites will leave us with a culture, a society, or an environment in which we have the luxury of even imagining alternatives.
The wretched world we’re living in at present was not an unlucky turn of fate; it was an economic and political decision, made without consulting the enormous human population that it would most drastically affect. If we would have it otherwise, if we’d prefer a future that we can call home, then we must stop supporting – even passively – this ravenous, insatiable conservative agenda before it devours us with our kids as a dessert.
Although my vote is principally against the Tories rather than for Labour, I’d observe that Labour’s current manifesto is the most encouraging set of proposals that I’ve ever seen from any major British party. Though these are immensely complicated times and we are all uncertain as to which course we should take, I’d say the one that steers us furthest from the glaringly apparent iceberg is the safest bet.
If my work has meant anything to you over the years, if the way that modern life is going makes you fear for all the things you value, then please get out there on polling day and make your voice heard with a vote against this heartless trampling of everybody’s safety, dignity and dreams.
A world we love is counting on us.

Alan Moore,
Northampton,
November 20th, 2019.

It has come to my attention that the Cons will have a difficult go of not losing most of their Scottish seats. Also, what if the Labour voters that Johnson and Cummings are targeting just vote for the Brexit Party instead? That is, what if the narrow demographic at the center of the Conservative electoral strategy (the small minority of pro-Brexit Labour voters in contested districts) is more liable to weigh their simultaneous hatred of Tories and desire for Brexit against Johnson and for Farage? If that is the case then Farage's decision to run only in Labour constituencies may be of little help on net to Johnson, who expects to poach opposing votes and not just negate them. May redux?