UK General Election 2019

[Furunculus]

Furunculus has said that the whole Brexit business should have been the prerogative of the executive, without Parliamentary oversight. Meaning the biggest issue of the election should be without constitutional scrutiny. Neil has said the biggest issue with Johnson is trustworthiness. Should the PM be allowed greater executive power without exposing him to scrutiny? Johnson has shown that he wants more of the former, and he's also shown that he's avoiding the latter as far as he can get away with it.

No, your serial misquoting of me continues:
I did not say brexit should have been the prerogative of the executive as if this was my opinion.
I pointed out that as a constitutional principle conducting relations with foreign powers is a function of the executive.
For the eminently sensible reason that negotiation by committee is universally stupid notion.

[Pannonian]

The UK's Brexit ambassador to the US resigns because she has better things to do than peddle the government's lies about what Brexit involves. Yup, that's the reason she gave.

[Beskar]

I got to admit when I was voting the other day, I was looking at the slip and I was like "I don't want to vote for any of you". I wish I was in a constitutionality with half-decent choices, like my neighbouring ones who happened to attract the talent.

The incumbent is a blue Labour who lives 300 miles away and primary the reason I have never voted Labour in a general election.

[edyzmedieval]

As things stand, looking through various news sources, the Conservatives will easily win a majority and Brexit will be delivered most probably in the beginning of next year. However, I've seen a lot of surprises with Brexit in the past 3 years - so I'll wait and see until the government is formed.

[Beskar]

The songs are now coming out.

[Pannonian]

As things stand, looking through various news sources, the Conservatives will easily win a majority and Brexit will be delivered most probably in the beginning of next year. However, I've seen a lot of surprises with Brexit in the past 3 years - so I'll wait and see until the government is formed.

Truth, competence and accountability no longer matters. "Because I want to" is now the decisive factor. If any Brit tries to take some kind of moral high ground over reason and logic, ask them if they voted Tory in this election. If they did, ask them whether reason, logic and all that mattered to them when they decided to vote for Johnson as PM.

[Furunculus]

Yes.
i gave my reasons and logic already They stand, as does my choice.

[Idaho]

As things stand, looking through various news sources, the Conservatives will easily win a majority and Brexit will be delivered most probably in the beginning of next year. However, I've seen a lot of surprises with Brexit in the past 3 years - so I'll wait and see until the government is formed.

Brexit will still be "in progress" for the next 10 years. The idea that a country can break a treaty and a comprehensive set of laws, systems and regulations and then enact a whole bunch of replacements quickly is pure brexiteer fantasy.

[Beskar]

Brexit will still be "in progress" for the next 10 years. The idea that a country can break a treaty and a comprehensive set of laws, systems and regulations and then enact a whole bunch of replacements quickly is pure brexiteer fantasy.

For the populace, it is getting "Brexit done" and by "Brexit done" is get the divorced paper signed. You still have to start dividing the estates and kids, but at least it is done/official.

[Greyblades]

Brexit will still be "in progress" for the next 10 years. The idea that a country can break a treaty and a comprehensive set of laws, systems and regulations and then enact a whole bunch of replacements quickly is pure brexiteer fantasy.

Your apparant belief that this is some immutable law of the universe is what is fantastical.

The land speed of a parliament is limited only by its willingness to move, when it doesnt want to do something within it power: delays abound, seasons pass, lives are lost to the attrition of time. When it does want to do something; no matter how fucking stupid, unpopular, self destructive and futile that thing may be, it will be legislated and enforcement attempted at distressing velocity.

Similarly negociations go as fast as both sides allow them to go; limited only by how it costs them to delay and how much they believe they can gain for doing so. These calculations are key and a lopsided balance of will to wait out the other lead to the most important and far reaching treaty of the 20th century being agreed to after three days of talking in a train car.

The shitshow of the last three years was because of one side's unwillingness to apply to the other a cost to delay; the EU thus had little to lose (that thier political class cared about at least) by delaying while the potential of the british political class to capitulate presented a great gain.

The future negociations will hopefully be different, though thanks to may's deal the EU will posess much more breathing room than they have any business having, not to mention £39 bn of our money in thier war chest. We can only hope the next tory majority will have some balls and refuse to enact it.

We'll only still be here in ten years if we allow ourselves to be, and as much of a pack of traitorous backstabbing bastards the majority of our current politicians might be, they wont survive two whole election cycles if they allow us to be so bogged down.

[edyzmedieval]

Idaho is right - this whole Brexit mess does not end after the leaving is done and dusted, it will take a long time to unravel and get to the same point it is right now. I've studied the uncodified constitution of the UK extensively, getting together a comprehensive set of laws to replace European Laws will be an absolute gutter mess to sort out.

And it will take a significant period of time.

[Pannonian]

Your apparant belief that this is some immutable law of the universe is what is fantastical.

The land speed of a parliament is limited only by its willingness to move, when it doesnt want to do something within it power: delays abound, seasons pass, lives are lost to the attrition of time. When it does want to do something; no matter how fucking stupid, unpopular, self destructive and futile that thing may be, it will be legislated and enforcement attempted at distressing velocity.

Similarly negociations go as fast as both sides allow them to go; limited only by how it costs them to delay and how much they believe they can gain for doing so. These calculations are key and a lopsided balance of will to wait out the other lead to the most important and far reaching treaty of the 20th century being agreed to after three days of talking in a train car.

The shitshow of the last three years was because of one side's unwillingness to apply to the other a cost to delay; the EU thus had little to lose (that thier political class cared about at least) by delaying while the potential of the british political class to capitulate presented a great gain.

The future negociations will hopefully be different, though thanks to may's deal the EU will posess much more breathing room than they have any business having, not to mention £39 bn of our money in thier war chest. We can only hope the next tory majority will have some balls and refuse to enact it.

We'll only still be here in ten years if we allow ourselves to be, and as much of a pack of traitorous backstabbing bastards the majority of our current politicians might be, they wont survive two whole election cycles if they allow us to be so bogged down.

Still blaming Remainers and the EU. And calling those who disagree with you "traitorous backstabbing bastards".