04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread

[Zack]

vote: csargo

[ladd]

@Insaner


he gives himself an out for that barto read - basically gives himself a way to escape the responsibility of voting/reading barto as scum. I don't think it's all that clearing. I talked about it in the above post.

in his defense, he does vote Barto

idk I just kinda have a soft spot for people who buss and do ~nothing with it cause it's just not a good play a lot of the times

sometimes wolves do it but generally it comes from the villagers that the wolves need to mislynch

I am still pretty null on csargo regardless. Do you have a read on egix?

[Insaner]

@Insaner


he gives himself an out for that barto read - basically gives himself a way to escape the responsibility of voting/reading barto as scum. I don't think it's all that clearing. I talked about it in the above post.

Yeah and then he doesn't use that out and votes him lol.

[Csargo]

vote: csargo

You want to make a deal? Sure, sounds good.

[ladd]

also when I asked you about why you chose to ISO the people ini the order you did, I was more talking about why out of the null you decided to went with csargo (or whoever, I forgot), cuth second, etc..

sorry if it wasn't clear

I thought you'd ISO egix first since he was the hottest topic and the player most people agreed was a wolf

[ladd]

also when I asked you about why you chose to ISO the people ini the order you did, I was more talking about why out of the null you decided to went with csargo (or whoever, I forgot), cuth second, etc..

sorry if it wasn't clear

I thought you'd ISO egix first since he was the hottest topic and the player most people agreed was a wolf

went= go*

went with csagro first*

not my best written sentence

[Insaner]

Listen to me, wolves.

I am not a pr. That derp I did yesterday was on purpose. I wanted to be cheeky and try to eat a pr bullet so I said I thought it was a role madness game in order to sell that. I actually considered doing that as my first post of the game but thought that would be too obvious - this is why I could think of doing it on the spot in response to merl1n's post. Now I don't feel like dying anymore so I'm admitting it.

I only ever intend to vote for Cuth and GH. I will never reevaluate on either of them and I won't even consider suspecting anyone else. That includes a lylo situation as well. Moreover, I will always be voting whichever one of them seems more lynchable than the other - so if only 1 of them is a villager and another is a wolf, chances are I will still missvote. If GH and Cuth are villagers, I will lose this game for the village and you will barely have to do anything. If they are villagers, you will leave me alive.

Your move, wolves.

[Cuthillius]

Listen to me, wolves.

I am not a pr. That derp I did yesterday was on purpose. I wanted to be cheeky and try to eat a pr bullet so I said I thought it was a role madness game in order to sell that. I actually considered doing that as my first post of the game but thought that would be too obvious - this is why I could think of doing it on the spot in response to merl1n's post. Now I don't feel like dying anymore so I'm admitting it.

I only ever intend to vote for Cuth and GH. I will never reevaluate on either of them and I won't even consider suspecting anyone else. That includes a lylo situation as well. Moreover, I will always be voting whichever one of them seems more lynchable than the other - so if only 1 of them is a villager and another is a wolf, chances are I will still missvote. If GH and Cuth are villagers, I will lose this game for the village and you will barely have to do anything. If they are villagers, you will leave me alive.

Your move, wolves.

i have no words

[dyachei]

Yeah and then he doesn't use that out and votes him lol.

and I talked about that, too. But he may have felt like there were enough people on barto to bus at that point. I just dont like the way he hedges a ton of his reads

[dyachei]

@ladd

I went with people with smaller numbers of posts first

[Zack]

bleh i hate this vote, I think csargo is a villager

i’m trying to find a decent cw to egix but having trouble finding one I feel good about

[ladd]

Why would you ever read your partners posts, you already know their alignment

[Zack]

Cuth was also my first thought after deciding csargo isn't a wolf

But I need to keep up appearances to keep the wolves off my scent after I shoot cuth tonight instead of dya

[Zack]

ladd you wanna join my cult?

me and gh are just chillin in the cult QT right now

[ladd]

Oh that's right, I remembered wrong.

It was actually this: I thought that {Fable, Logic} ({town, town} both then and now) was an overall purer wagon than {Zelda, Bart, Cuth} which I had as {null-town, null, null-scum} at the time.

this is what I liked the most about egix today and what is giving me pause on him despite his awful posts

he first said that he voted me because he felt I wa smore likely to go through than monty

but then when monty asks him a question, he "remembers" what was the actual reason (the one I am quoting)

idk, it just seems like such a weird thing to fake as a wolf

[ladd]

ladd you wanna join my cult?

me and gh are just chillin in the cult QT right now

[Zack]

this is what I liked the most about egix today and what is giving me pause on him despite his awful posts

he first said that he voted me because he felt I wa smore likely to go through than monty

but then when monty asks him a question, he "remembers" what was the actual reason (the one I am quoting)

idk, it just seems like such a weird thing to fake as a wolf

maybe he didn't want to be on the same wagon as the other three wolves

[ladd]

maybe he didn't want to be on the same wagon as the other three wolves

ya I guess

tbh he didn't really strike me as the type of wolf that would have the balls to go after me esp since we played together before but who knows

[ladd]

also dya, idk if you missed it or just didn't have time to asnwer, but when you got time can you read egix posts and tell me what's your read on him?

[Zack]

ya I guess

tbh he didn't really strike me as the type of wolf that would have the balls to go after me esp since we played together before but who knows

after we're sitting here on day 2 with two dead wolves and one dead villager, I've already braced myself for a mislynch + misvig as a palate cleanser before we right the ship and find the remaining wolves, then our cult sweeps in and wins by parity.

[Montmorency]

PART I

I remember back when the org didn't have custom avatars

We chose from a limited selection of tiny total war themed portraits and we liked it

*harrumphs furiously*

Why did you ask that question, specifically?

Future background information. Chekhov's gun?

Logic's reads on ladd

Don't really have much to say here, I think ladd is town. Logic's allowed to be wrong.

It's not so much the content of the ladd case but Logic "taking potshots" relative to the game state. Maybe a more restricted scope of engagement.

I had a light gut read on Empoof.

What was the night kill challenge about?

@Montmorency

The reason I avoided you earlier was because I like to intentionally fail to answer questions and see if the person asking follows up and demands from me an answer.

Oh yeah, I remember. Odd timing to drop that in its own post after the fact though!

I'm not sure why you've picked this particular point to shade, as I don't understand a town or a scum motivation for it.

It's just an aside. You know how I like my asides.

Only town reads were consensus: TRUE
Shaded you and Cuth: TRUE
Voted LAdd with hard attacks: TRUE
Consistent with Logic's scum meta: FALSE

Well, if you say so? Eventually I will study the archive. One thing that gives me pause, Logic, is that when we were in 2018 Hydra and you played as LogiCzar, and I was mislynched D1, you were like the only player I correctly scumread. Technically two players, but... And I can't quite TR you right now.

C'mon Monty. You should know this. You saw how I was in chess and how hopelessly flawed my scumgame is.

*grumbling intensifies*

Just thinking about the ways this game still can be lost. With both wolves being already caught and all that.

?

I'm vt btw

Voice and vote, voice and vote!

i just want to note, for the record, that "frozen" seems a really, really, tunnely way to look at my posts today

and maybe it's just because i've not had a ton of time to post in and so it feels like i've said a lot more than i have without that context

but i certainly don't think i've been inactive or like

giving up/deflating nearly like i would as a wolf in this situation even

pretty sure i've made, like, a pretty reasonable chunk of posts/words this phase

OK, I went too far. You're not that out of it.

Town
Zack
Fable
Insaner

Choxorn
Choxorn

Probably town
Logic
Montmorency
ladd

Low town
Cuth
merl1n

idk my bff jill
Csargo
dya
Newyn

Mafia
Egix

[...]

My dropping Logic down a category is more of a holistic sense of how I feel the game going more than any post or posts he's made. I've noticed in general quite a bit of friction between the three GITPers (Logic, Cuth, and Newyn) in terms of trying to find each other in the game, a friction that I do not believe would be as present if all three were town. My having Logic at least one category above the other two people speaks to how I still feel about him, but it's a feeling I can't quite shake.

I thought being unable to lock Logic D1 is fatal for GH.

Choxorn is his own category. If he's actually a tracker, the mafia can't afford to leave him alive indefinitely. If he's not, then we'll know.

What if he's a Mafia tracker? I just don't believe a town tracker drops in at the beginning of D2 in this gamestate and says 'Hi, I'm a tracker, here's my first result.' I keep thinking "refuge in audacity," did someone say that in this game? Just keep it in the back of your head.

[Montmorency]

PART II

i

really like dya's posting today and i can't figure out why

there's not the (overly) stereotypical single-minded push on a suspect or frustration that often gets her v-read

and that and other peoples' opinions have typically formed a decent chunk of my opinion on her in the past

but i have a hard time seeing her as a wolf here and now and it almost bothers me a little

maybe just those anni host soulreads who knows

Hmm...

This is the kind of post I most strongly associate with town-Cuth, but I'm not sure why, or what to do with that.

Also, I doubt there are any 3p in this game

why

this is the post that made me think "yeah logic is a villager"

"I like to intentionally fail to answer questions and see if the person asking follows up and demands from me an answer" what wolf ever says/does this

Huh. GH said the literal exact same thing today (search my post). Seriously, does that mean something?

...

Wait, what the fuck? This is what happens when you construct the post out of order. Forget it.

I guess there is an outside chance of cuth/newyn/csargo or choxorn chicanery but I just don't really believe it

I still think it's egix + dya, just like I did during the night and at SOD

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

now's the part where village implodes on itself after the hot start and rams home three mislynches in a row and my reads are butt

Part of this post will stand the test of time.

hey egix

when you claimed, did yiu remember it by heart or check yiur rc?

Voice and vote. Voice and vote!

the thing with cuth is that I think his posts are more focused on trying to look villagery than actually solving the game

Like all his reads have some kind of nuance that just looks overthought and fake

Stuff like "I can't explain it but it just feels that way", "I should have a read on him but I don't", etc..

Isn't that exactly his town meta? y/n

does ne1 have strong opinions on csargo

atm he's k.

Ftr I'm actually a vt. Don't let anybody convince you otherwise!

What do you mean? Someone is going to report a role scan on you? Weird comment, along with the one about "both" mafia.

like maybe don't assume that there's nothing of value in my posts and actually read them. I already discussed csargo, discussed cuth.

i dun like

[Montmorency]

vote: csargo

You'll switch

bleh i hate this vote, I think csargo is a villager

i’m trying to find a decent cw to egix but having trouble finding one I feel good about

Correct.

You want to make a deal? Sure, sounds good.

You can't refuse.

and I talked about that, too. But he may have felt like there were enough people on barto to bus at that point. I just dont like the way he hedges a ton of his reads

That's Csargo.

Cuth was also my first thought after deciding csargo isn't a wolf

But I need to keep up appearances to keep the wolves off my scent after I shoot cuth tonight instead of dya

I knew you were the assassin. Do you take orders?

3 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo, Monty)
4 Egix (merl1n, GH, newyn, Cuth))
1 Csargo (Dyachei)
2 Logic (FAble, Egix)
1 Fable (Logic)
1 dyachei (zack)

Not voting: rest of you lot

LMK if there are any errors

^^TALLY

Listen to me, wolves.

I am not a pr. That derp I did yesterday was on purpose. I wanted to be cheeky and try to eat a pr bullet so I said I thought it was a role madness game in order to sell that. I actually considered doing that as my first post of the game but thought that would be too obvious - this is why I could think of doing it on the spot in response to merl1n's post. Now I don't feel like dying anymore so I'm admitting it.

I only ever intend to vote for Cuth and GH. I will never reevaluate on either of them and I won't even consider suspecting anyone else. That includes a lylo situation as well. Moreover, I will always be voting whichever one of them seems more lynchable than the other - so if only 1 of them is a villager and another is a wolf, chances are I will still missvote. If GH and Cuth are villagers, I will lose this game for the village and you will barely have to do anything. If they are villagers, you will leave me alive.

Your move, wolves.

The hero we deserve. I want a tie so

Vote: Logic

Sorry not sorry. Ties good

after we're sitting here on day 2 with two dead wolves and one dead villager, I've already braced myself for a mislynch + misvig as a palate cleanser before we right the ship and find the remaining wolves, then our cult sweeps in and wins by parity.

@Choxorn do me a solid and please track Zack. Zack, don't convert Choxorn.

[Zack]

vote: egix

[merl1n]

plz dont track zack wtf. track in the poe, ESPECIALLY if egix is a hit

[merl1n]

a secret: im not actually that confident that egix is bad here, but i dont have any better ideas and it confirms me as good if he is bad

i kinda think chox is more likely to be bad independent, but that's a rlly bad kill for us to make

[merl1n]

i think ladd might be my #1 good read now. quite the trn of events given my d1 read on him xD

[Montmorency]

vote: egix

In lieu of my D1 analysis for now

Here are the vote changes since I was last around, ~9 hours ago:

3 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo, Monty)
3 Egix (merl1n, GH. Newyn)
1 Csargo (dyachei)

Fable: 0 > Logic (9:51)
Cuth: 0 > Logic (1:14)
Logic: 0 > Fable (1:22)
Cuth: Logic > Egix (1:43)
Zack: 0 > Dya (2:43)
Egix: 0 > Logic (4:31)


3 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo, Monty)
4 Egix (merl1n, GH, newyn, Cuth))
1 Csargo (Dyachei)
2 Logic (FAble, Egix)
1 Fable (Logic)
1 dyachei (zack)

Zack: dya > Csargo
Monty: Cuth > Logic
Zack: Csargo > Egix

CURRENT Tally (I think)
5 Egix (merl1n, GH, newyn, Cuth, Zack)
3 Logic (FAble, Egix, Monty)
2 Cuth (Insaner, Csargo)
1 Csargo (Dyachei)
1 Fable (Logic)
Not Voting (Choxorn, ladd)


Given what I said about voting activity I think one of Cuth, Logic, Egix has to be scum, right? Or was it the other way around.

[Logic]

I'm still voting Fable and meant to move to Egix somewhere around 3 hours ago. With the current wagons being nearly tied, I'm fine with Cuth, but will move to Egix if something nuts happens.
Unvote: Fable
Vote: Cuthillius

[Montmorency]

I'm still voting Fable and meant to move to Egix somewhere around 3 hours ago. With the current wagons being nearly tied, I'm fine with Cuth, but will move to Egix if something nuts happens.
Unvote: Fable
Vote: Cuthillius

Nothing against you, you understand. It's just business.

I really would recommend a pre-EOD tie between Cuth, Logic, and Egix (adjusted for self-pres). Hey, ties worked well for us yesterday.