04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread

[Insaner]

is this hyberbole? what kind of sample size in games are we talking?

Yes. I'm actually 2/3 on Capage I'm pretty sure - I misread him the first time we played (anni mash 2018) but then read him correctly as villager in 2 recent games. Was an easy read as I found him super villagery from the moment he posted in those games, and I got the opposite feeling here.

[Montmorency]

Oh and finally in a game where egix is pillaging so that's cool.

Pillaging as opposed to villaging?

New phone is killing me. Meant villaging but if egix likes pillaging I'm not gonna judge.

It was good wordplay. If you're town, it's your job to judge pillagers.

I'm glad people are enjoying the emotes.

Good stuff.

Mafia day role cop detected.

Also a soft, but weaker.

@laddYou hedge on calling a post of mine good content wise, but wolfy in tone.

I should point out I agreed with him.

Nah

Unless you meant villaging, in which case, ofc I do.

Do you like killing, or grilling?

Not as sold on Merl1n town as everyone else, and it's largely for this post:

It just seems a little overdone, even for the "I'm new and this is my first game" act he's putting on. I don't doubt that this is his first game but I feel like he's putting it on a little too much.

Empoof is gut mafia for me. Can't really explain it now. Kill me tonight if you don't want me to flesh this out please.

Guess I'm voting with my two large posts as a guideline. Anyone I haven't talked about I'm probably ambivalent about.

Whoa, merlin articulated much of my D1 mood. Countershade on GH.

Who exactly are you asking to kill you, and why?

Ok.

Vote: PZelda

I might join in, but I need to read the thread first.

[Egix]

I'm considering moving back to ladd, but otoh Mont's catchup wall didn't exactly rock my world.

[Egix]

No I don't like killing or grilling!

[merl1n]

Yes. I'm actually 2/3 on Capage I'm pretty sure - I misread him the first time we played (anni mash 2018) but then read him correctly as villager in 2 recent games. Was an easy read as I found him super villagery from the moment he posted in those games, and I got the opposite feeling here.

oh. i have a friend i've read correctly actually literally 100% of the time over 50 or so irl games, so that's a read strength i'd trust. 3 games in which you were only right 2 of them, mebbe not xD

[merl1n]

i liked insaner staking a LITERALLY 100% read strength on someone, bc i dont think a bad ever does that, but him walking it back some mitigates it a little

[Insaner]

oh. i have a friend i've read correctly actually literally 100% of the time over 50 or so irl games, so that's a read strength i'd trust. 3 games in which you were only right 2 of them, mebbe not xD

Fair enough. Where are you at with regards to wolf reads?

[Insaner]

i liked insaner staking a LITERALLY 100% read strength on someone, bc i dont think a bad ever does that, but him walking it back some mitigates it a little

Full disclosure, bud.

[Egix]

All right, you know what

Unvote
Vote: ladd

Choo choo mothertruckers

[Insaner]

All right, you know what

Unvote
Vote: ladd

Choo choo mothertruckers

[merl1n]

trying to figure out what i think about general. i think i like him going against the grain with his read on me, but it's something i've done as a bad before, almost a refuge in audacity type calling someone out that every other player thinks is good

[merl1n]

Fair enough. Where are you at with regards to wolf reads?

idk yet. d1 is usually just "shrug kill someone at semi-random who isn't acting like they care" and get our night actions in, and then use that info to start getting real lynches done

going to spend some time focusing on ppl with votes and figuring out what i think, since it seems a lot more serious on d1 here

[Empoof]

Monty, shouldn't be considered a soft claim. I was saying that today (right now) would be more active.

GH, unrelated to whatever gut read you have I'm curious how you would describe my wolf play to someone who's never played for me (like, explaining it to merl1n).

[Insaner]

Tally:
4 El Barto (Montmorency, Zack, Empoof, ladd)
3 Montmorency (El Barto, Pzelda, Cuthillius,)
3 Ladd (Fable, Logic, Egix)
1 Choxorn (Newyn)
2 PZelda (Insaner, GH)
1 Newyn (Choxorn)


Not voting: Merl1n, Dyachei, Csargo

This seems correct?

[Insaner]

Ladd wagon looks the purest to me

[merl1n]

does no one defending el barto or montmorency at all make them more likely good?

[Cuthillius]

yeah um

with all due respect I think your reads are rather strange, gh

[Empoof]

Vote: Choroxn

Thought I did that earlier but I think nl missed it, was probably at the bottom of a post

[Insaner]

does no one defending el barto or montmorency at all make them more likely good?

I was defending Barto all day. But I was the only one.

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You are correct here - when I was talking about Barto being spewed by wolfy people pushing him, ladd and GH are the people I had in mind. And also Cuth: who didn't actually Barto, but he didn't not push him either as he included him in his possible wolf list. But mainly I was talking about ladd and GH.

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I saw someone point out that those 2 weren't even the main pushers on El Barto - he was mostly pushed by Zack and you also agreed with it, and I since the two of you are my top villager reads, someone, maybe even more than 1 person, had argued that my point about Barto being spewed is moot since the people I think are wolfy that scum read Barto have actually barely pushed him. But to me, ladd's and GH stances on Barto look exactly like how wolves treat consensus scum read villagers - call them wolfy and then sit back while another villager (Zack) does all the dirty work of convincing others to vote them.


Barto's big post and my comment on it:

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I'm trying to think if I can give you something more other than it just seems natural to me. The answer is sadly no =/ It just strikes me as him giving his... unfiltered? impressions of things. He isn't trying to force any conclusions with his comments which makes it look genuine. He has very little volume and I know it's not a good town case but I think the reasons to wolfread him are way, way worse. It's literally just Zack's two post read where he said that El Barto was wolfy for not voting me along with his joke. That's literally it. It's an okay read to make 5 minutes into the game, but I just checked and Zack actually never updater his read, the only time he gave something else was this post:

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Which is like, sure it's unproductive, but villagers cast votes on non contributors all the time as well. He never commented on Barto's read post.


Sorry it took so long, got distracted a couple of times.

[Empoof]

does no one defending el barto or montmorency at all make them more likely good?

Not in this player list.

Though I'd say a couple of us are defending monty, albeit softly

[Cuthillius]

vote: El Barto

[Empoof]

We might lynch pzelda here tbh

I don't believe 100%-never-rescind levels for insaner but he probably has some idea and it's like 70% likely

[merl1n]

how do role claims work here? if your going to be lynched are you allowed to claim your power? ive played in games where you can and in games where you cant

[merl1n]

We might lynch pzelda here tbh

I don't believe 100%-never-rescind levels for insaner but he probably has some idea and it's like 70% likely

my problem with that is i think insaner might be bad, so unless he's willing to stake a VERY strong claim on something that he can be held accountable for i'm reluctant to follow his lead

[Empoof]

Flavour/Powers are completely randomised. You may claim your Title if you want, it has no alignment or role implication. Do not post your image in thread obviously. You may claim powers, do not quote, paraphrase (I will obviously be very lenient, so don't be scared, just don't quote me or copy word for word).

for merl1n

[Cuthillius]

I do think Monty looks better, and I'm less comfortable with my company on that wagon

plus Barto is definitely pretty low-key

and I think it's a helpful lynch no matter what

[Insaner]

how do role claims work here? if your going to be lynched are you allowed to claim your power? ive played in games where you can and in games where you cant

You can as long as you don't quote anything. But since this is a role madness game just claiming isn't going to be clearing.

[Newyn]

Vote: El Barto

Outside of Mont, the wagon's essentially my entire town list so I'm feeling good about this.

[Empoof]

my problem with that is i think insaner might be bad, so unless he's willing to stake a VERY strong claim on something that he can be held accountable for i'm reluctant to follow his lead

If pzelda is town I wouldn't knock insaner for it.

Though I'd pay attention to how his reaction and PoV shifts based on the knowledge during day 2

[Cuthillius]

for merl1n

hard softing villager alignment