04/12 Generic Fantasy WW Game Thread

[ladd]

insaner, how did you know pzelda=capage?

[Insaner]

insaner, how did you know pzelda=capage?

Tmi

[Insaner]

I'm sorry. I should stop trolling you now. I feel bad about treating you the way I did yesterday.

Visor said who they were in the recruitment thread on mu. The reason I decided to join this game was the absolutely hype playerlist, and Capage was one of many players I was eager to play with. I feel a little bad for murdering him with my meta case when he wanted to play anonimously. I would not have gone for him as hard as I did yesterday without prior experience with him.

[Cuthillius]

hi i'm cuth and i'm inordinately upset at the extent to which people are still putting me in the poe

but it's tired and i'm late so maybe words tomorrow

gj all us though

[Egix]

life*

also egix, what are your reads rn? Part of me thinks you would not push me d1 as scum but your posts arent good

Well, Insan is town unless he hellbussed, which I doubt.
Fable and Logic are still my pet townreads.
And Chox is probably just town, considering his claim.

[ladd]

Well, Insan is town unless he hellbussed, which I doubt.
Fable and Logic are still my pet townreads.
And Chox is probably just town, considering his claim.

can you go more in depth on fable/logic?

and who do you think are the wolves? if you are a villager you have the best pov of us all

[Insaner]

I wouldn't have made such a careless post about someone if I actually knew they were scum.

Was that the only purpose behind this post? :P

Like, I don't recall you memeing much about anyone else in the game.

[Insaner]

Was that the only purpose behind this post? :P

Like, I don't recall you memeing much about anyone else in the game.

I mean it wasn't even a funny meme. It was just awkward.

[Newyn]

heyo scoobs, how is kife going?

I realized it was you yday at eod with avatar change et all but I was too tired to process it

Hi, I've been taking a break from forum mafia but this player list looked too good to pass up.

Cho gets a pass today at least with his claim but still don't like Egix. Going nowhere just means he's probably not mafia PR, doubt he'd carry kp after yesterday.

Claiming vt after Cho claimed to have tracked him as his opening post feels off to me and "I wouldn't do x if I knew they were scum" is pretty much just wifom.

[Insaner]

Well since it looks like Egix has given up I suppose there's no use holding this back now. What I was gonna say is I think that Cuth is the last wolf based on the following quotes:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I like Newyn. I don't know if I'm comfortable calling him either alignment yet, though.

Pzelda's opening was rather bizarre and really really awkward if wolf, so villager points there. In particular the interaction with Zack.

I'm unsettled by wagon comp on Monty, think I'd rather hold off there for now, since I'm personally not confident on reading him generically speaking.

Was going to vote Logic, but now I sorta think him calling GH and Zack null, if lazy particularly in the first case, is mildly villagery.

Hum ho.

would you say capage's the kind of person who makes equivalently off the wall reads as any alignment?

hm

lot more willing to excuse ladd based on those reasons, given the size of the game and how we've just started

but curious to see how that evolves over time

appreciate the answer, genuinely :)

[Cuthillius]

lol

you don't say

[Insaner]

lol

you don't say

Told you I was gonna get ya after Capage flipped wolf.

[Insaner]

Everyone else looks like a villager to me. Maybe Monty? He is just plain weird. Choxorn is self resolving as wolves will want to get rid of him if he is a village tracker. Just give him until F3 to catch all wolves and snap him then if he fails to do so. I don't see who else it could be.

[ladd]

I have today completely free but tomorrow I'll barely be able to post so the plan is to re read as much as I can today and PoE this game

doesn't seem too hard atm but I wouldn't wanna let something slip by us

forgive me for the likely number of consecutive posts I am about to make

[ladd]

I find Monty's unrelated thoughts to be some type of content for content. I'm not a big fan. Other than that, It's been a nice game so far. I don't even feel like throwing my vote around and killing someone.

Actually, Empoof has been the loudest voice so far and I like him for that. I read some mashes on MU and he's usually loud trying to powertown or powerwolf. Finding the difference might be hard but this has felt like a honest effort so far.

Townreads so far:
Empoof
Merlin
Insaner
Egix

Zack and Barto produced some activity and I definitely spotted them. The latter's definitely more lackluster of the two. Zack's late posts are solid and filled with micro reads. My only fear is that the read on him is so consensus. Barto's posts are trashier with more fluff, but I think that him going against the thread might be a good look.

Cuth made a long post I skipped, then returned to it and read the last sentence:


I'm not a big fan of the wording here. I agree with the read, tho.

The rest is of players consists the bottom pile. I guess monty and gh stand out but not in a good way. GH might be too much of a MU champs meta read, but Monty's just been making fluffy unrelated posts.

Vote: Montomercy

just don't think it makes much sense for p to awkwardly defend barto (who was being pushed more) in this post and then decide to buss anyway by voting monty

[ladd]

also @El Barto have we played together before? did you have a different username?

@dyachei why did you ask this question?

[ladd]

There really isn't as much spew as I thought from El Barto/Capage, at least from their sides. Will try to read it from player's sides later on, but for now between the ISO function on here (no offense, I just got too used to all the tools on mu) and me being a bit burnout of ww in general, I don't really feel like doing too much back reading and would rather just real time it when people are around mash style.

Anyway here is the situation.

Zack is a villager, everyone agrees and he should never be lynched.

GH is a villager, he is just playing like his obvious villa self imo. Not much to do with his zelda push really (2 wolves were wagons for a good portion of the day so wolves bussing is perfectly plausible esp later on), I think it could totally come from wolf gh given the situation but like he is just villagery and that's worth more than anything else to me.

Insaner is a villager too. The way he pushed zelda, zelda reaction to it, overall villagery, etc...

Monty is a spewed villager, don't think him being a wolf makes any sense.

I am an obvious villager.

I don't really see Fable playing yesterday like he did as a wolf almost ever. First of all I don't think he votes me the way he did and then he just busses pzelda like that? Just a villa.

Logic is a villager cause GH says so (and also cause I think his push on me while bad, made logical sense)

These guys are all ~locks to be villas.

Then there is merlin who imo has been villagery but also very wrong. I'll re read his EoD later but I think his post about agreeing with the last person to post that GH disliked shows a mindset that is just hard to fake as a wolf. Also he as Empoof top villa read.

That leaves us with:

dya
Cuth
Chox
Newyin
Egix
Csargo

I think last 2 wolves are in here.

Chox claimed tracker and is self resolving as long as we lynch the other wolf before we get to f-whatever. Would leave alone for now, he is not endgaming with that claim.

I think dya will probably be able to clear herself just by being villagery given time, I didn't mind her d1 but not to clearing levels.

newyin is in a similar spot as dya, maybe liked his d1 slightly more.

Csargo is just rand unless someone has meta on them.

cuth could be a wolf? I haven't read the context of his barto vote, will do so in a bit but going by what I remember they did nothing particularly clearing and I just read their long wall for the first time rn and it just seems like a word salad. If you are a villager, can you quote me what you think is clearing for you since you feel that way?

Egix has the least going for them, I don't think this is a smoking gun as much as GH and am willing to entertain them being a villa, but they just have nothing going for them except the fact that maybe they would not have the balls to go after me as a wolf but that's worth little at this point. His monty push in particular was super lazy and @Egix can you explain more in detail why you thought I was a wolf so much that you voted me d1 and ended the day voting me?

[ladd]

vote: El Barto

I do think Monty looks better, and I'm less comfortable with my company on that wagon

plus Barto is definitely pretty low-key

and I think it's a helpful lynch no matter what

can you elaborate on both of the bolded?

I know the first is kinda self explaining but I wanna know exactly how you felt about people on both wagons at that point and what made you switch like that

[ladd]

also for post game credit, I had empoof as a PR

that's the thign that kinda makes me fear this game maybe not be super easy as we are thinking since after that EoD I feel empoof would be the nk only if choxorn is a wolf or if wolves are paying attention and PR read him as well

[ladd]

i liked insaner staking a LITERALLY 100% read strength on someone, bc i dont think a bad ever does that, but him walking it back some mitigates it a little

my problem with that is i think insaner might be bad, so unless he's willing to stake a VERY strong claim on something that he can be held accountable for i'm reluctant to follow his lead

@merl1n can you go again over why exactly you thought insaner could be a wolf?

also why that stopped you from giving any kind of read on pzelda all game afaict

[ladd]

alrighty, merl1n d1 is really wolfsided and not as villagery as I remember

still feel his mindset on the "last one to talk seems right" is something hard to fake as a wolf

so would still lean on him being a villager

[Zack]

Insaner spitroasted a wolf and thinks it's a role madness game. The wolves didn't know barto was going to die and should have been expecting to sacrifice him d2 if they let me live through the night.

Empoof defended zelda iirc and was not really gunning after anyone except choxorn that I remember. I don't know why they would kill him if chox is villa

Not sure why everyone thinks dya is so villagy. She is near the bottom of my POE.

I'm also chuckling at insaner's God read of capage now being correct 3 out of 4 games, which is literally just rand lol

[Zack]

Maybe one of those people that was all "why do people think Merlin is so villagy?!?!?!" is w/w with Merlin

[ladd]

Maybe one of those people that was all "why do people think Merlin is so villagy?!?!?!" is w/w with Merlin

lol an ever green

choxorn just claimed tracker fwiw. I agree with you that game would make more sense if Choxorn was a wolf but shrug, seems pointless to go there today

[Zack]

Also let's take a moment to acknowledge that I had the sickest soul read of all time

[Zack]

kind of a weird read but I kind of like that GH stepped away from the game after the hydra game ended. feels like if he were wolfing he'd be more likely to try hard after a loss there

This is like the reasons Yates would give when he townread someone

I don't get it at all. Feels like an enormous reach

[Zack]

When I was reading eod, the way GH joined the zelda wagon made me think of how he joined me on Darren Sanders in the finale

GH is an extremely likely villager but I wanted to seed the thread with that knowledge anyway

[ladd]

This is like the reasons Yates would give when he townread someone

I don't get it at all. Feels like an enormous reach

was weird for me as well, think I called it out yday

[Zack]

What wolf team would have ever had egix carry the kill there?

[ladd]

what do you think about scoobs? I kinda don't think that's the way he would buss but not suepr sure if I remember his meta correctly

also interested in your cuth read