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    Where did you get this? What Labour constituency and Labour voter-centred polling I'd seen said that Hartlepool was the only Labour constituency where Labour voters had a pro-Leave majority. Every other Labour constituency had a pro-Remain majority among Labour voters.
    I respectfully don't really buy it. I'm not convinced people answer the polls truthfully.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    I respectfully don't really buy it. I'm not convinced people answer the polls truthfully.
    So where did you get the information that you claim? If you don't believe something, but claim something else, presumably you have evidence backing your claim.

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    So where did you get the information that you claim? If you don't believe something, but claim something else, presumably you have evidence backing your claim.
    It seems that, despite the polls, there are always plenty of supposed Labour voters to be interviewed who support Brexit, especially older voters.

    So it's anecdotal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philippus Flavius Homovallumus View Post
    It seems that, despite the polls, there are always plenty of supposed Labour voters to be interviewed who support Brexit, especially older voters.

    So it's anecdotal.
    Anecdotally, Question Time almost always had a Leave-heavy audience, even in Remain areas. Don't you think selection may have something to do with it?

    The Remain argument was always complex, weighing pros and cons along economic and cultural lines. Thanks to our media, there never was an all-encompassing cultural or philosophical argument. And also thanks to our media, there were always simple red lines for Leavers to set as their decisive argument, such as rory's ECJ, your take on sovereignty, etc.

    Faced with either minutes-long argument with an interviewee, or a soundbite under 10 seconds, which do you think newscasters will broadcast?

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