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There are indisputable facts:

Arrest rates for black people is way above white people (actual rates of criminality are not that different).

Conviction rates are far higher for black people.

Prison population is far higher for black people.

Deaths during arrest and in custody are far higher for black people.

Instead of facing up to this, you obfuscate and dissemble. You try and find possible reasons why it can't be due to systemic racism.
Show me my post where I denied it. You must have mixed me up with someone else.

What I consistently tried to argue is that police brutality should be punished but making a saint and a martyr out of a hardened criminal is another extermity many people indulge in. Irrespective of the race of the victim.


Quote Originally Posted by Idaho View Post
You try really, really hard to put it down to something else. This says much. This tells us that you have pre-existing opinions that you want to maintain.
All of us have pre-existing opinions. And you too. Or does your mind change with the rising and the setting of a few suns?

My pre-existing opinion is that everyone should be treated equally and perpetrators should be punished and their race shouldn't be an issue. But as the case of OJ Simpson showed, it is only a wishful thinking.

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I know from personal experience of Eastern Europe, from the experience of black people in eastern Europe, and from observation of political and cultural norms in that part of the world - racism is endemic and thinking is akin to how it was here 20 years ago.
Racism is in evidence everywhere so there is no point in singling out some region of the world. But if we try to implicate personal experience, I can counterpose mine.

When I was in America as an exchange student and lived in the dorms, I met a local black student in the corridor every now and then. When he saw me he exclaimed "Hey, Russia!" every time, although I explained more than once that I was from Ukraine. What would he say if I exclaimed "Hey, Nigeria/Congo/Cameroon/Gabon?" But did I do it? No, I kept smiling and explaining. Was it racism/xenophobia/arrogance of that student?

In your accusations I see the reverberations of a witchhunt that has started in the world after Floyd's murder.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/news/nba-an...0-e0ffacb3302d