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    Ongoing protests, tear gas, in France over stuff.
    https://www.aa.com.tr/en/europe/pari...tality/1871332
    https://www.voanews.com/europe/anger...rench-lockdown

    Under France's strictest virus lockdown measures, from March 17-May 11, the government restricted people's movements to a kilometer (half-mile) around their homes and required that anyone leaving their homes carry a signed paper stating why. Punishments included fines starting at 135 euros (about $150), or even prison.

    On the first day punishments were doled out, 10% of the fines given in the entire country were given in the region of Seine-Saint-Denis on Paris' northern edge, where unemployment is twice the national average, almost one person out of three is an immigrant, and many others are the descendants of immigrants.

    Government officials defended the fines as necessary to fight the virus in a region with especially high infection rates. [Why did this region have especially high infection rates? I've seen this movie before. ]

    But police union leader Yves Lefebvre lamented that the lockdown measures "again made the police a repressive tool."

    "Public services have deserted these neighborhoods," and police are the only presence left, which "necessarily leads to confrontation," he said.

    And I guess there are protests in Brazil for similar reasons. Woooo.
    https://www.ft.com/content/3d2f6986-...6-7c300513fe47

    It would be for the best if global unrest synergizes.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_of_2019
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/06/w...-protests.html

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    One man is left fighting for his life after rioters found another reason why tearing down statues is a stupid thing to do.
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    Something which I havent seen much coverage of are the two hangings of Black men in California, both from trees. Both happened in the relative vicinity of each other. The police arent saying foul play but the families are saying that something is off and are pressing for more investigating, especially with the current racial tensions.

    And then theres the resignation of the Atlanta police chief after police killed a man fleeing arrest after sleeping at a Wendy's drive-through. This case is a more complicated as the suspect was in an altercation with the cops and then was killed while pointing a taser at the cops. Whether deadly force was appropriate, well thats harder to determine, but I think its also appropriate to discuss that maybe Rayshard Brooks decided to fight and run because he knew that complying wouldn’t necessarily guarantee his safety.
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    Man jailed for urinating at PC Keith Palmer memorial during protest

    Andrew Banks, 28, of Stansted, Essex, was photographed during Saturday's right-wing protests in London.

    He was sentenced to 14 days in custody, after pleading guilty to outraging public decency at Westminster Magistrates' Court.

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    Prosecutor Michael Mallon said Banks, a Tottenham Hotspur fan, was in central London to "protect statues", but admitted he did not know which statues.

    He was said to have drunk 16 pints during Friday night into Saturday morning, and had not been to sleep.

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    I posted some hints of evolving civil-military relations under Trump, but it has certainly been... interesting to see so many retired and serving military, as well as ranking officials and leaders, denounce or deprecate Trump since the Lafayette Park debacle. I remind you that polling had Trump underwater with active duty personnel, including officers even before the pandemic! He was less popular with officers than with the general population, and the officer class has been famously, overwhelmingly Republican forever!


    Polling so far has been firmly pro-Black Lives Matter, to the point where in one poll a majority of respondents viewed the targeted arson of a police precinct building as at least somewhat justified. Here is a more extensive Pew study, usually benchmarks. Some highlights:

    • 31% of white adults strongly support BLM, with a similar proportion somewhat supporting it
    • 40% of Republicans at least somewhat support BLM
    • Two-thirds of Americans have had conversations about race with friends and family recently (of course this would also include the 'exterminate the brutes' type of exchanges that I've been party to)
    • 6% of polled adults claim to have attended a protest or rally about racial issues recently; if true this makes the 2020 BLM protest wave the biggest in American history (the other 4 biggest protest movements in American history have all taken place within the past 3.5 years.........)


    Six-in-ten Americans say the president has been delivering the wrong message to the country in response to these protests. Asked about Trump’s handling of race relations more generally, about half (48%) say he has made race relations worse; 19% say he has made progress toward improving race relations, 19% say he has tried but failed to make progress and 12% say the president hasn’t addressed the issue.

    In San Francisco: Police will be replaced with professional mediators in responding to civil complaints or disturbances. Among other proposals. The seeming enthusiasm of the local police union and Chamber of Commerce toward the proposals leaves me apprehensive though. San Jose, San Francisco, and LA police unions activating the spillway...

    So the Minneapolis City Council passed a resolution to dissolve their police department and replace it with a "community-led public safety system." Of course, this just initiates a year-long process to figure out what that means, how to implement it, and how to proceed.

    It's tough to defend beat cops when you know, well, all the racism and fascism, but also their departments' dire clearance rates for criminal incidents and their near-total uselessness for stopping crimes in progress. And then there's this.
    https://blockclubchicago.org/2020/06...s-video-shows/

    A group of Chicago Police officers entered Rep. Bobby Rush’s closed Englewood office and lounged, napped and made popcorn, doing nothing while looters destroyed South Side businesses nearby, video shows.

    Rush, whose office is at 55th Street and South Wentworth Avenue, said he got a call his office had been burglarized during the widespread looting and vandalism that took place throughout the city early June 1.

    After viewing security footage, Rush’s staff saw a group of about eight uniformed police officers enter the office while looting took place nearby. The officers napped, made popcorn and coffee, played on their phones and generally lounged, the congressman said.

    At one point, as many as 13 officers — including three supervisors — were in the office relaxing, officials said. Officers were in the office for four to five hours.

    At the same time, nearby businesses were looted and burned down. More than a dozen people were killed throughout the city that night.
    It's well-known that police have and do permit property destruction as a gesture of petty vindictiveness toward their municipalities during protests, but it only serves to further undermine the case for suffering them.


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    And then theres the resignation of the Atlanta police chief after police killed a man fleeing arrest after sleeping at a Wendy's drive-through. This case is a more complicated as the suspect was in an altercation with the cops and then was killed while pointing a taser at the cops. Whether deadly force was appropriate, well thats harder to determine, but I think its also appropriate to discuss that maybe Rayshard Brooks decided to fight and run because he knew that complying wouldn’t necessarily guarantee his safety.
    Let's lay out the incident:
    https://www.ajc.com/news/crime--law/...gsevgIc2Q7ZkJ/

    The incident began about 10:30 p.m. outside the fast food chain on University Avenue, GBI spokeswoman Nelly Miles said. Officers were called to the restaurant after receiving a complaint about a man asleep in his vehicle, which forced other customers to go around his car to get their food at the window.
    Police should not be called in these circumstances.

    The man, Atlanta resident Rayshard Brooks, was given a field sobriety test, which he reportedly failed, according to the GBI. After failing the test, the officers attempted to place the male subject into custody,” Miles said.
    Assuming the man was sleeping off alcohol, police should not have attempted to arrest him. At most, there could have been cause to have the vehicle towed.

    “During the arrest, the male subject resisted and a struggle ensued. The officer deployed a Taser.”
    The officers should have stopped struggling, having initiated the struggle.

    According to police, Brooks managed to take the Taser away from the officer before being shot. He was taken to the hospital where he later died, Miles said. Cellphone video captured by a Wendy's customer appears to show two officers struggling with Brooks in the parking lot. He appeared to be running away from them when he was fatally shot. BI Director Vic Reynolds said surveillance footage from the Wendy’s appeared to show Brooks turn toward the police and attempt to fire the Taser as he ran away. That’s when the officer chasing Brooks pulled out his gun and shot him, authorities said.
    If it is true that the suspect attempted to use the taser on pursuing officers while fleeing, and that this could justify immediate force escalation by the police (two bullets in the back), then surely the suspect was quite right to be fleeing officers' use of taser against his person - as would any suspect.

    In reality there was not even a scintilla of cause for lethal force here. If you have the (allegedly inebriated) suspect's vehicle, you have his registration information and (likely primary) conveyance. If the suspect escapes police on the scene, they can in almost all cases be subsequently apprehended at leisure.

    The intervention of the police was at least inappropriate at every step of the way. Many cops are willing and eager to sacrifice blue lives in exchange for opportunities to degrade and end black lives. Blue Lives Matter, what a cynical crock.

    Modern police are THE dangerous servant and fearful master, so one would think reining then could slot into a bipartisan movement, but there have always been far more misarchists than "small-government" conservatives. Fusionism (significant overlap with neoconservatism) was ultimately the same shit btw, though the Republican base never had as much specific concern with the interests of the transnational elite as fusionists did.


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    Saturday's right-wing protests in London.
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    Hundreds of mostly middle-aged white men, many shirtless or clutching beers, gathered in Parliament Square, where video showed a small number of right-wing protesters throwing objects at a line of police, some of whom responded with batons.
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    Boojahid was the killer, and an infiltrator to boot. To my knowledge the first killing associated with the creed.
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/jus...ornia-n1231187

    An Air Force sergeant who was arrested in the fatal ambush of a Santa Cruz County deputy was charged Tuesday in connection with the killing of a federal security officer during George Floyd protests in Oakland last month, authorities said.

    Staff Sgt. Steven Carrillo, 32, was charged with murder and attempted murder in the killing of federal officer Dave Patrick Underwood, 53.

    Underwood was one of two officers who were shot May 29 while guarding the Ronald V. Dellums Federal Building. The other officer was critically wounded in the drive-by attack. Both were members of Homeland Security's Federal Protective Service.

    Authorities said Carrillo and a second man traveled to Oakland with the intent to kill police and believed the large demonstrations spurred by the death of Floyd in Minneapolis — which they were not a part of — would help them get away it.

    "They came to Oakland to kill cops," said John Bennett, special agent in charge of the San Francisco division of the FBI.

    Carrillo's alleged accomplice, Robert Justus, was also charged with murder and attempted murder.

    The killing of Underwood set off a massive manhunt. Eight days later, officers showed up at Carrillo's home after they discovered an abandoned white van that belonged to him and contained ammunition, firearms and bomb-making equipment, authorities said.

    Carrillo ambushed the officers, killing Santa Cruz County Sgt. Damon Gutzwiller and critically injuring another deputy, according to authorities.

    Carrillo suffered a gunshot wound but managed to flee the scene on feet, authorities said. He carjacked a vehicle but was ultimately taken into custody, bleeding from his hip, authorities said.

    He was charged with multiple offenses, including murder and attempted murder, in the attack on the Santa Cruz County officers.

    Federal authorities said an AR-15 was recovered at the scene where Carrillo was arrested and linked to the Oakland federal courthouse shooting. The assault rifle used by Carrillo was privately made, had no markings and had a silencer attached to the barrel of the weapon, authorities said.

    Investigators found inside Carrillo's vehicle a ballistic vest with a patch on it that featured an igloo and a Hawaiian-style print — symbols associated with the far-right extremist "Boogaloo" movement, according to his federal complaint.

    Carrillo, prior to his arrest, used his own blood to scrawl the word “boog” and “I became unreasonable” on the hood of the vehicle he carjacked, the complaint says. Both phrases are also associated with "Boogaloo," a term used by extremists to reference a violent uprising or impending civil war in the U.S., the complaint says.
    According to the complaint, Carrillo wrote in a Facebook group on May 28 that the unrest is “on our coast now, this needs to be nationwide” and that “it’s a great opportunity to target the specialty soup bois."

    In Boogaloo groups on Facebook and Reddit, “soup bois” is shorthand for government agencies that are abbreviated in acronyms like “alphabet soup" such as the FBI and ATF.

    Online Boogaloo communities frequently post memes about targeting federal agencies in advance of another civil war.

    In response to Carrillo’s message, the complaint alleges Justus wrote “let’s boogie,” another reference to the Boogaloo movement.

    In Boogaloo Facebook groups, the complaint says, Carrillo was even more explicit about taking advantage of protests to stir up unrest and violence against police.

    “Go to the riots and support our own cause. Show them the real targets. Use their anger to fuel our fire. Think outside the box. We have mobs of angry people to use to our advantage,” Carillo wrote in one Facebook group, according to the complaint.

    Carrillo believed that the Boogaloo, or second civil war, was “kicking off now and if its not kicking off in your hood then start it,” according to the complaint.

    Boogaloo groups are actively allowed on Facebook. Earlier this month, Facebook told NBC News it would stop recommending the groups in its recommendations algorithm, but the groups would be allowed on the site.
    Backgrounder by Robert Evans
    https://www.bellingcat.com/news/2020...hat-you-think/

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