POTUS/General Election Thread 2020 + Aftermath

[Pannonian]

One dead police officer.

[ReluctantSamurai]

Quick poll on American voter views concerning the events of 6 Jan at the Capital:

https://today.yougov.com/topics/poli...tol-trump-poll

A YouGov Direct poll of 1,397 registered voters who had heard about the event finds that most (62%) voters perceive these actions as a threat to democracy. Democrats (93%) overwhelmingly see it this way, while most (55%) Independents also agree. Among Republicans, however, only a quarter (27%) think this should be considered a threat to democracy, with two-thirds (68%) saying otherwise.

In fact, many Republicans (45%) actively support the actions of those at the Capitol, although as many expressed their opposition (43%).

Among all voters, almost two-thirds (63%) say that they “strongly” oppose the actions taken by President Trump’s supporters, with another 8% say they “somewhat” oppose what has happened.

The partisan difference in support could be down to differing perceptions of the nature of the protests. While 59% of voters who are aware of the events at the Capitol perceive them as being more violent than more peaceful (28%), the opposite is true of Republicans. By 58% to 22%, Republicans see the goings on as more peaceful than more violent.

Voters most consider those who stormed the Capitol "domestic terrorists" or "extremists". Republicans are more likely to call them "patriots".

And these are the people that should be welcomed back into the flock with open arms...

[rory_20_uk]

One dead police officer.

Given all the rioters were committing an act that they knew could be dangerous, under the Law can't they all be charged with the murder?

[Hooahguy]

Given all the rioters were committing an act that they knew could be dangerous, under the Law can't they all be charged with the murder?

I dont think murder, but probably accessory or something along those lines.

It is increasingly looking like this was something with a lot of organization and that there was inside help:

Rep. Clyburn: "My office, if you don't know where it is, you ain't going to find it by accident. And the one place where my name is on the door, that office is right on Statuary Hall. They didn't touch that door, but they went into that other place where I do most of my work, they showed up there harassing my staff. How did they know to go there? How come they didn't go where my name was? They went to where you won't find my name, but they found where I was supposed to be. So something else was going on untoward here."

Coupled with that NYT story which said that a Capitol Police officer helped rioters find Schumer's office, its clear that the Capitol Police were compromised.

Make no mistake, this was a huge victory for the far-right and they will be lionizing this event for years. I really hope the Biden Justice Dept. cracks down hard on these folk.

[Pannonian]

I dont think murder, but probably accessory or something along those lines.

It is increasingly looking like this was something with a lot of organization and that there was inside help:

Rep. Clyburn: "My office, if you don't know where it is, you ain't going to find it by accident. And the one place where my name is on the door, that office is right on Statuary Hall. They didn't touch that door, but they went into that other place where I do most of my work, they showed up there harassing my staff. How did they know to go there? How come they didn't go where my name was? They went to where you won't find my name, but they found where I was supposed to be. So something else was going on untoward here."

Coupled with that NYT story which said that a Capitol Police officer helped rioters find Schumer's office, its clear that the Capitol Police were compromised.

Make no mistake, this was a huge victory for the far-right and they will be lionizing this event for years. I really hope the Biden Justice Dept. cracks down hard on these folk.

The top brass in the military are by now pretty fervently anti-Trump. How is it with the police? AFAIK they're locally elected.

[Hooahguy]

The top brass in the military are by now pretty fervently anti-Trump. How is it with the police? AFAIK they're locally elected.

US police forces have a fairly well-known problem with white nationalism. If the lower ranks are sympathetic to white nationalism it wont really matter what the brass thinks.

But hey, at least they just arrested the guy who took the photo at Pelosi's desk. Two days late is better than never I guess.

[Pannonian]

US police forces have a fairly well-known problem with white nationalism. If the lower ranks are sympathetic to white nationalism it wont really matter what the brass thinks.

But hey, at least they just arrested the guy who took the photo at Pelosi's desk. Two days late is better than never I guess.

Will the insurrection and the death of the officer change attitudes, I wonder.