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    I wonder at the naivete of Americans (both here and those I see in TV footages) who calculate votes in states, number of electoral colleges' members, mock Trump calling him Covidon and generally rejoice in his discomfiture.

    All of you fail to realize (or choose to disregard) the fact that Trump isn't the core of your troubles. Half of your nation are covidons who want to see him in the White House again. Trump just impersonates the trend. He will eventually step down, but millions of covidons will not, and they will continue living next door to you or across the street. This is what you should be more concerned about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    I wonder at the naivete of Americans (both here and those I see in TV footages) who calculate votes in states, number of electoral colleges' members, mock Trump calling him Covidon and generally rejoice in his discomfiture.

    All of you fail to realize (or choose to disregard) the fact that Trump isn't the core of your troubles. Half of your nation are covidons who want to see him in the White House again. Trump just impersonates the trend. He will eventually step down, but millions of covidons will not, and they will continue living next door to you or across the street. This is what you should be more concerned about.
    Yeah I dont think anyone here believes that just getting rid of Trump is the solution to the core issue.
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    https://www.yahoo.com/news/sen-elect...225708676.html
    Evaporating commies on Normandy aside, there is one branch of government, the executive and the Senate. I mean there are two branches of government, the executive, the Senate and the House. Scrap it, there are three, the executive, the Senate, the House and... Yeah that must be it, just like that Jean-Paul Sartre said.

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    All of you fail to realize (or choose to disregard) the fact that Trump isn't the core of your troubles. Half of your nation are covidons who want to see him in the White House again. Trump just impersonates the trend. He will eventually step down, but millions of covidons will not, and they will continue living next door to you or across the street. This is what you should be more concerned about.
    I don't think that anyone with a brain thinks that firing CoviDon is the end of trouble here. That nearly 73 million voted for him sez it all on that account. However, if he hadn't been fired now, another four years of his chaotic leadership would've seen America slip further and further into an authoritarian state. The real work begins now.

    Yeah that must be it, just like that Jean-Paul Sartre said.
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    This transition is petulance at its worst.

    There is, I strongly suspect, NOBODY in the administration that believes the Biden win in the election will now be overturned. Trump keeps playing to his coterie of ignorant supporters and the racists they cohere with and the only loser is ALL of us.

    Constitutionally, he can string this out until Congress meets in January to open and accept the vote of the Electoral College. Thus preventing a smooth transition and guaranteeing screw ups above and beyond the Washington DC norm.

    Petulant and classless.

    All it would take is quiet statement allowing the transition office to function as designed.

    What an asshat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    This transition is petulance at its worst.

    There is, I strongly suspect, NOBODY in the administration that believes the Biden win in the election will now be overturned. Trump keeps playing to his coterie of ignorant supporters and the racists they cohere with and the only loser is ALL of us.

    Constitutionally, he can string this out until Congress meets in January to open and accept the vote of the Electoral College. Thus preventing a smooth transition and guaranteeing screw ups above and beyond the Washington DC norm.

    Petulant and classless.

    All it would take is quiet statement allowing the transition office to function as designed.

    What an asshat.
    What do you think will happen with the Republican-dominated institutions from now? A couple of the supposedly conservative supreme judges have reportedly backed the legitimacy of the election result. Is this because it's an easy thing to say with little further consequence? Or will sections of the Republican-friendly institutions distance themselves from the Trumpian hardcore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pannonian View Post
    What do you think will happen with the Republican-dominated institutions from now? A couple of the supposedly conservative supreme judges have reportedly backed the legitimacy of the election result. Is this because it's an easy thing to say with little further consequence? Or will sections of the Republican-friendly institutions distance themselves from the Trumpian hardcore?
    Why would they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    This transition is petulance at its worst.

    There is, I strongly suspect, NOBODY in the administration that believes the Biden win in the election will now be overturned. Trump keeps playing to his coterie of ignorant supporters and the racists they cohere with and the only loser is ALL of us.

    Constitutionally, he can string this out until Congress meets in January to open and accept the vote of the Electoral College. Thus preventing a smooth transition and guaranteeing screw ups above and beyond the Washington DC norm.

    Petulant and classless.

    All it would take is quiet statement allowing the transition office to function as designed.

    What an asshat.
    What an asshat indeed, although would anyone really expect him to act differently after a lifetime of well, being an asshat?



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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    I wonder at the naivete of Americans (both here and those I see in TV footages) who calculate votes in states, number of electoral colleges' members, mock Trump calling him Covidon and generally rejoice in his discomfiture.

    All of you fail to realize (or choose to disregard) the fact that Trump isn't the core of your troubles. Half of your nation are covidons who want to see him in the White House again. Trump just impersonates the trend. He will eventually step down, but millions of covidons will not, and they will continue living next door to you or across the street. This is what you should be more concerned about.
    Bet you feel pretty silly once you realize that just this question has been plastered all about the thread already since before the election.

    It's good that you're interested though, the Republican degeneration is the inescapable tragedy of American life (among others) in the 21st century.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Bet you feel pretty silly once you realize that just this question has been plastered all about the thread already since before the election.
    No I don't. Even if such issue came to the focus of attention, you still continue to count votes and guess who will take what position after Trump. But it doesn't really matter. The division within the nation won't disappear whoever steps in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gilrandir View Post
    No I don't. Even if such issue came to the focus of attention, you still continue to count votes and guess who will take what position after Trump. But it doesn't really matter. The division within the nation won't disappear whoever steps in.
    Not only are the bolded statements not in opposition, one would naturally seem to heighten the importance of the other. Or are you saying we should lie down and bare our throats?
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    I feel a bit embarrassed. My whole life I have always been frustrated at how easy a divided Congress can halt any action and now that I am looking at yet another 2 years of no Federal action whatsoever, I realized I don't even know how Congress operates.
    So I bought a book about Congressional Procedure, stuff hooahguy probably already knows but reading it I am at a loss at how ignorant I have been.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Montmorency View Post
    Not only are the bolded statements not in opposition, one would naturally seem to heighten the importance of the other. Or are you saying we should lie down and bare our throats?
    Are you saying that your opponents are predators ready to rend to pieces? That's what division within the society makes people say. It seems that you are ready to do the same to them. Biden's victory won't mend anything. You are in for years of Two Americas.
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    Biden's victory won't mend anything. You are in for years of Two Americas.
    This comment shows that you know little about America. We have already been "Two Americas" for years. It's been decades of white anxiety keeping people of color suppressed as much as possible. The divide between the wealthy and the poor has been getting wider for many years. The political divide between Republicans and Democrats has gotten more radical and confrontational for the last 20 years.

    America's problems won't be solved during the course of one presidential term. That will likely not happen during the course of the next four or five presidential terms, if it happens at all. While you are entitled to your opinion, I would appreciate that if you are going to bloviate about the state of affairs here in the States, you at least educate yourself about what is actually going on here.

    If the man can correct the utter chaos and madness that's characterized America's pandemic response, and get our economy headed in the direction of a recovery, that alone would be a huge success. Whether he can get some of the other things on his agenda accomplished, isn't entirely within his control. Biden is no Golden Child that's going to instantly heal the very sick patient that is America, but to condemn the man before he's had a chance to do anything...well, keep that BS to yourself until you actually have something to comment on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donald Trump
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    He won because the Election was Rigged. NO VOTE WATCHERS OR OBSERVERS allowed, vote tabulated by a Radical Left privately owned company, Dominion, with a bad reputation & bum equipment that couldn’t even qualify for Texas (which I won by a lot!), the Fake & Silent Media, & more!
    Does this count as conceding the election? Do the constitutional mechanisms have the go ahead to move?

    Also, for your amusement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ReluctantSamurai View Post
    This comment shows that you know little about America. We have already been "Two Americas" for years. It's been decades of white anxiety keeping people of color suppressed as much as possible. The divide between the wealthy and the poor has been getting wider for many years. The political divide between Republicans and Democrats has gotten more radical and confrontational for the last 20 years.

    America's problems won't be solved during the course of one presidential term. That will likely not happen during the course of the next four or five presidential terms, if it happens at all. While you are entitled to your opinion, I would appreciate that if you are going to bloviate about the state of affairs here in the States, you at least educate yourself about what is actually going on here.
    You may not believe, but I'm somewhat aware of the divides you speak about. But in the last four years all of them deepened. And mending them isn't Biden's responsibility, but the one of all Americans.

    Quote Originally Posted by ReluctantSamurai View Post
    If the man can correct the utter chaos and madness that's characterized America's pandemic response, and get our economy headed in the direction of a recovery, that alone would be a huge success. Whether he can get some of the other things on his agenda accomplished, isn't entirely within his control. Biden is no Golden Child that's going to instantly heal the very sick patient that is America, but to condemn the man before he's had a chance to do anything...well, keep that BS to yourself until you actually have something to comment on.
    First of all, it is always a privilege to communicate to a polite person.

    Second of all, I would like you to cite my post where I condemn Biden. I think that in the situation that you have he is the least evil (for Ukraine especially). So I advise you to read carefully what I write and keep YOUR BS to yourself until you do have something to bitch about.
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