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    I enjoyed RTW quite a bit. The idiotic units (Head Hurlers???) could be edited out. The biggest problem was the 3D map. The AI just could not cope with all the intricacies and the campaign map was poorly designed (there's a brilliant map making discussion in the RTW forum for identifying and eliminating the problems). My one claim to fame is solving the squalor issue without editing files, adding new buildings designed to counter squalor, etc. You can find those discussions in the RTW Forum under ZPG (Zero Population Growth). My biggest complaint, and this may sound silly, was the way weather was rendered on the battlefield. I mean, you call THAT a thunderstorm??? In Shogun, you could almost feel the peels of thunder, and you couldn't see more than 10-20 yards ahead (that's why the battle of Okehazama remains such a vivid experience). But that was part of the reason players like me just couldn't get emotionally involved with the game. The atmosphere just wasn't as immersive as Shogun.
    I agree wholeheartedly on the weather issue, I mean what were they thinking? The thunderstorm in Shogun knocked my socks off and that was me playing it for the first time in 2019! Also the the mountain sized trees in RTW are absurd.

    Solving the squalor issue is quite the achievement. I haven't played RTW yet but I've read up on squalor and it looks like it was poorly implemented. Let's see if I got this right, they tied a population happiness modifier (squalor) to population growth but it can't be capped and the building line that common sense tells you to use to combat squalor (public health) ends up working against you because it increases population growth. Did I get that right? Because that's really silly.

    Anyhoo this is all off topic at this point. I just figured I'd pop in a say "hi". It's been a long time since I've been active on any forums so I'll apologize for the late response.

    I'm about to start recording an Oda campaign so I'll be putting up an Oda guide in the next week or so. Just Sengoku Jidai though, sorry no 1580

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    Solving the squalor issue is quite the achievement. I haven't played RTW yet but I've read up on squalor and it looks like it was poorly implemented.
    There's a current thread in the RTW Forum about a closely related subject---corruption. It'd be worth your time, IMHO, to browse or bookmark for future reference. My screenshots prove the efficacy of ZPG both for squalor and corruption.

    Earlier Oda campaigns are not dissimilar to Oda 1580. They just move at a much slower pace, and your main adversary, at the start (provided you don't get into an early conflict with Takeda or Imagawa) will be subduing rebels and the Ikko-Ikki.
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