Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[Maple]

Sunbae is sunbae posting but it isn't overtly villagery

I trust cthalion very little

[Maple]

I want to call manasi v for literally no reason other than thread feelz

This is a bad read

[Maple]

I'm not a fan of dya but it could be oog

[Maple]

Ara is giving me specifically lms vibes and I don't understand it

[Maple]

If anyone will be thread spewed my money is in hally or esooa

I don't trust hally though, their gh posting felt odd; I never trust them tho

[Esooa]

I'm actually not doing that because I don't feel like multiquoting; maybe he's just threadspewed town and this is easy!!

Vote: Visor

I read ~all of day 1 of the rocks invitational (and none after) but since that game I've been very wary of considering people threadspewed, cause of the newcomb stuff lol

[Esooa]

I don't really have strong thoughts on very many people. I think Visor/Dolby are performing below my expectations of them, judging by past experience. They're usually more obviously town, pretty quickly, so I think they're underwhelming at present.

I'm thinking that pzelda is probably town, because the thoughts and how he's processing people are eerily similar to last game.

I think Esooa, GH, Hally, you, and Cuth are okay.

The rest I don't have particularly strong thoughts either way on.

can you explain your read on me? I find it odd I'm getting basically nothing but town reads in my catchup while I've not really done much lol

[Esooa]

My town core is Zelda, Ara, and Colonel i think

can you explain ara/colonel?

[Esooa]

i didnt know my parents were playing this game

lmfao

[Esooa]

tbh, there are still posts from Visor, which make me wee uncertain (mostly his sod friendly chatting with Csargo and GH), but I like his take on Dolby, his vote on Dya and the way he approached Amy. All that combined I'm willing to call him town and follow his lead.

Unvote: Montomercy
Vote: Ampharos

6 consecutive good posts from pzelda here is making me wanna just lock town him lol

[Esooa]

Dunkin' Donuts: Part 1

the first post is performative, making a show of things (and worth contrasting to the later post re sunbae). it also is just tonally off for the position of the thread, its making a grand statement where at that point a lot of people already villa read those slots. plus i think it is in amys wolf tone wheelhouse

sunbae post: two problemos, one is the meta narrative behind pulling away village reads on sunbae, and the other is the word choice, wack. first part: obv sunbae is a good player, but most of us are good players and make good tonal posts, while sunbae could probably make the posts he made as either alignment, in the end that doesnt matter and you have to start somewhere. i don't think the paranoia around sunbae slot makes sense for how you treat the hally/eph slots. the bigger issue imo is the word choice wack, firstly it shades the ppl who make those reads implicitly through dark forces. second thing is that its the wrong word choice, the words you expect to see here are: weird, strange, wild, etc. wack is a stylistic choice that wolves make to appear with it.

townreading me: amy struggled to townread me most of the inviational game until the gh/newc section (which is fine), but she also expressed she has had trouble reading me in the past. it seems strange to me, to place such an early townread on me, when historically you say you have had trouble reading me, when i haven't done a huge amoutn of solving thus far in the game, and i am well known for making offtopic/joke posts as either alignment (as a person in general). ppl who know me might lean one way or another, but it feels weird for me to be a village read when i haven't kicked on to anything yet

there's no paranoia over my posts here, but we should be paranoid over sunbae for posting things that sound fine? sunbae could be a wolf and i am wrong here, but it should be fine to villaread sunbae for stuff, we are gonna examine him later if he survives anyway.

thx for attending my ted talk, see you bronanas tomorrow.

this is the longest Visor post I've ever seen I think, and it's constantly making me feel weird about him lol

Am I right you don't usually make posts like this Visor? Why now?

[Esooa]

Who is thread spewed

pzelda but I town read him p strongly now so idc anymore

[Visor]

this is the longest Visor post I've ever seen I think, and it's constantly making me feel weird about him lol

Am I right you don't usually make posts like this Visor? Why now?

you are wrong!

i post how i feel like when i feel like which i think is why ppl can have trouble reading me because i don't play the same game everytime

[Esooa]

Sunbae is sunbae posting but it isn't overtly villagery

I trust cthalion very little

+1 to cuth but I wanna hear more from him about the reads on like, myself and GH

do I just vote by bolding? like this lol?

vote: Cuthalion

[Esooa]

you are wrong!

i post how i feel like when i feel like which i think is why ppl can have trouble reading me because i don't play the same game everytime

oki, well if you normally change playstyle stuff like that I'll probably try not to factor that into my read. I think I've only ever seen you make more snippy posts though (idk what else to use other than snippy but it's not bad)

[Esooa]

anyways yay I'm caught up now time to vibe

[Visor]

oki, well if you normally change playstyle stuff like that I'll probably try not to factor that into my read. I think I've only ever seen you make more snippy posts though (idk what else to use other than snippy but it's not bad)

i did make some longer posts in the metal gear game

idk

you will mostly see short snippy posts but i do occasionally branch out into the forbidden art of text walling

[Esooa]

i did make some longer posts in the metal gear game

idk

you will mostly see short snippy posts but i do occasionally branch out into the forbidden art of text walling

I didn't read that game after dying

[Arapocalypse]

I don't really have strong thoughts on very many people. I think Visor/Dolby are performing below my expectations of them, judging by past experience. They're usually more obviously town, pretty quickly, so I think they're underwhelming at present.

I'm thinking that pzelda is probably town, because the thoughts and how he's processing people are eerily similar to last game.

I think Esooa, GH, Hally, you, and Cuth are okay.

The rest I don't have particularly strong thoughts either way on.

Can you elaborate on one of the ones that you have as okay? Or rather, what's your strongest townread?

How have you found Dolby to be more obviously town than here?

[Arapocalypse]

My town core is Zelda, Ara, and Colonel i think

Why me/Colonel?

[Sunbae]

@Sunbae

you around?

wanna talk dya?

Outside of this quick check in I won't really be around much until later tonight at the earliest or tomorrow. I'm going to do my best to land in the 75 post range at the end of the day (one for my own sanity, two because I am a visitor to the forum and think it's pretty clear that high volume isn't really what the regulars here are hoping for).

I don't really have many Dya thoughts. I had a brief interaction with her, did a couple of quick lower post count isos before I headed out later, saw hers and thought it was the posting of someone that didn't really want to be there. I thought it was possibly due to randing wolf yet again after getting a small break in the rand last game and voted her. Nothing that has happened since has made me feel differently but there's other things I've been focusing on so it's kinda on the back burner.

[Sunbae]

Why me/Colonel?

I think Colonel's reads and engagement about reads point towards being a villager. Notably how different to everyone else he's been and the way he started changing GH's reads around to show where he'd be instead + following it up with saying "i didnt' say we were close. I was showing you what needed to change for us to be close". Just kinda feels like they are doing their own thing and don't really care what the perception is on it.

With you I think the way you engaged about pZelda asking others why they townread them in the way you did was towny. Essentially that it wasn't just a throwaway question but one you kinda harped on for a bit to get an answer for made me think you actually cared. When you got one from me you engaged with it and didn't seem to have an agenda behind agreeing with part of my take but not being entirely satisfied (saying you might pull up whats been bothering you later).

[Visor]

any toughts on amy?

[Arapocalypse]

I think you haven't seen me scum in a while. But let's talk about you. You are usually quite difficult to read early on, but I'm getting a good vibe from this one post (earlier posts were either forgettable or slightly scary as that comic strip reminded me of w!GH in champs, but I guess you just couldn't resist a good joke). Here you react to previous activity and ask questions, if you further develop your reads based on answers I think it's a good look!!! That said, some parts feel over the roof hype, almost cryptic. I don't love it, but I don't think it's wolfy.

I don't think you are in danger of getting my vote today, but It's also too early to let you in my town. And i think that's a fair read.

It's quite fair that I probably haven't; I actually can't remember the last time I've seen you as mafia? Besides maybe that one pink champs game!!!

I unfortunately am not able to take credit for the funny comic; it was made by 4maskwolf in a recent teamgame, but is very !!!!!!!!!!!!!! for many mafia situations and I am thus adopting it as my own!!!!!

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

[Sunbae]

any toughts on amy?

None. I'm a sucker for "my headspace was bad last night but I'll get right". I tend to just give that space. I could talk about how acknowledging that issues were issues instead of arguing against specific parts of the case is mildly villagery but I don't really think that matters in the grand scheme of things and think the next 24 hours will say a lot more.

My biggest note of the whole thing was how your take on Ampharos giving you a town read pretty quickly being weird pretty much mirrored my earlier post about my mild concerns with you lol. Yours sounded a lot fancier but I think the gist was the same.

Do you think my concerns about csargo are things that actually matter with them? I kinda found their response of "yeah i get awkward sometimes just how it is" villagery but I have zero experience with them so I'm hoping for some guidance.

[Arapocalypse]

Ara, your definition of "TWTBAW" seems... gauged on a much more sensitive scale than usual, so I'm not sure what to do with those reads? Like, usually I'm used to people applying that read to people who are doing things that just splash into the thread in a very wolfy way, but you seem to be saying "these things are slightly >rand w and I don't think this person would do that many slightly >rand w things so they're probably town". Does that make sense?

Also, why am I a villager?

I gather that you think I'm applying the TWTBAW label too liberally, if I'm understanding you correctly? Which... I mean, I guess I could be? But I think I have it set at approximately the correct scale to have for someone who's only had 4 posts in the game so far which unless Montmorency has a severe post-volume meta different (which I don't think he does) then... I'm fine with this for a light initial read, not ride or die!!!

I feel like you are interested in and engaged in the game in a towny way; really basic read but stuff like you outlining your reads already and others make me feel like you're thinking about the game, I guess!! Not a strong read; that being said, I'm okay with it at the moment!!!!

[Visor]

None. I'm a sucker for "my headspace was bad last night but I'll get right". I tend to just give that space. I could talk about how acknowledging that issues were issues instead of arguing against specific parts of the case is mildly villagery but I don't really think that matters in the grand scheme of things and think the next 24 hours will say a lot more.

My biggest note of the whole thing was how your take on Ampharos giving you a town read pretty quickly being weird pretty much mirrored my earlier post about my mild concerns with you lol. Yours sounded a lot fancier but I think the gist was the same.

Do you think my concerns about csargo are things that actually matter with them? I kinda found their response of "yeah i get awkward sometimes just how it is" villagery but I have zero experience with them so I'm hoping for some guidance.

ya me too, gonna give some time there before deciding what to do.

i did find csargos posts a little awkard at times? but i havent read what ive missed overnight so i may be missing some stuff

it felt a little 200 tildes.

[Arapocalypse]

1)Is Colonel Bop? I wonder why his reads are so different from mine. I really just wonder, because I find myself agreeing with most of my other townreads. Is it a different approach to processing people? I would like to see into that to learn something new, but I don't think it's really important alignment-wise.
2)Cuth was difficult to read at first, but I think his approach is too careless to be wolf. Ok, wolves can be careless, but he's also decent and questioning other people and evaluating the gamestate.
3)If I compare Visor's and Amy's returns, the former is flashier and it immediately made me wanna sheep Visor. BUT after thinking about it for a while I'm not that sure if he's that townier than Amy and I need to reread his posts. Tbh, I'm willing to blindly follow town Visor and his strong reads. The one good thing is that he managed to purge my pre-flip w/w association.

Okay okay, you can be town; these are really towny thoughts!!!

Very !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(This chain of posts in general is !!!!!!!!!!!! but pulling this one out in particular as it's the most notable of them!!!!)

[Cuthillius]

interested in more about pzelda, myself, gh here

nothing to say about pzelda

you're there because you made a few posts that read well emotionally (i know people hate this sort of read because emotions aren't something you're supposed to read people off of but i don't care) early on and i feel pretty good about how your approach has lined up with those specific feelings

gh and amy are both the sort of players who sound reasonable and present plausible logical arguments no matter what they're doing, but i dislike the angles they've taken with their reads and where they've engaged to a degree, and neither has presented a lot of Caring about their reads or state in the game at this point

which is just me trying to find slightly different words than the ones i used talking to visor just now-- essentially, both feel like they are Making Points but lacking in the depth and subtleties that i expect to see from them as villagers

i'm not smitten with gh's swap onto amy and i wanted to give amy some space after her posts just now (i don't think they sway the needle entirely, but i resonate with the humanity in them), thus the vote switch just now

[Cuthillius]

I read ~all of day 1 of the rocks invitational (and none after) but since that game I've been very wary of considering people threadspewed, cause of the newcomb stuff lol

i kid you not

i have spent half a day wondering why people were talking about rocks so much and what game they were referencing

it just clicked when i read this post on my walk just now

i feel very silly