Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[Hally]

feels kinda early for this, and usually when I have this many early town reads I get kinda paranoid

Idr if Hally is the same but hopefully I see at least some of that later

to clarify i’m not like, married to these reads and a lot of them are pretty thin. that’s kinda the first step of solving for me (just dividing the game by good feels/absence of good feels) and as i go on i’ll obviously continue to re-evaluate

[Hally]

+1 to cuth but I wanna hear more from him about the reads on like, myself and GH

do I just vote by bolding? like this lol?

vote: Cuthalion

what didn’t you like about cuth?

[Cuthillius]

SO I completely understand what you are saying here but I know GH won't get it, so for his benefit what would be your current lean on esooa

it's unrelated to that specific train of thought, but moderate strength v from some posts early on/how i feel her game has played out since

[Ampharos]

i find myself vaguely townreading p much all of the people who are actually doing things

which is prooobably not correct (this originally said "clearly" and then i remembered teamgame)

we'll workshop it

[Ephemeral]

morning

i fixed my sleep schedule

even though it won't last long lol

i'll be catching up ~slowly~ while i get breakfast

[Hally]

Outside of this quick check in I won't really be around much until later tonight at the earliest or tomorrow. I'm going to do my best to land in the 75 post range at the end of the day (one for my own sanity, two because I am a visitor to the forum and think it's pretty clear that high volume isn't really what the regulars here are hoping for).

I don't really have many Dya thoughts. I had a brief interaction with her, did a couple of quick lower post count isos before I headed out later, saw hers and thought it was the posting of someone that didn't really want to be there. I thought it was possibly due to randing wolf yet again after getting a small break in the rand last game and voted her. Nothing that has happened since has made me feel differently but there's other things I've been focusing on so it's kinda on the back burner.

yeah, their lack of presence so far feels out of step with them saying they’re relieved to have randed villa again. if they are it’s not coming through in their posts

[Cuthillius]

re: bolded - why wouldn’t you?

because sometimes i like to stew on things and not force people's hands so they get defensive and i confbias on them and the focus becomes more on whether or not they're conforming to my particular standards by which i'm reading them than how they'd post if they were free to do whatever

because that's not a ton of fun

but i also thought the posts were pretty bad

and i'd have likely mentioned it in passing or implicitly at some point after having caught up if visor hadn't

[Visor]

ye if i wasnt voting amy id be hard pressed to not vote dya sadly

ill have to give dya an iso later
@Montmorency

what do you think of the pzelda townread phenom

[Ephemeral]

im also binging money heist, on season 2 episode 4

nice, I'm on season 3 ep 6

it's wild, and for reference I think i started watching it like 2 or 3 days ago lol

[Hally]

nothing to say about pzelda

you're there because you made a few posts that read well emotionally (i know people hate this sort of read because emotions aren't something you're supposed to read people off of but i don't care) early on and i feel pretty good about how your approach has lined up with those specific feelings

gh and amy are both the sort of players who sound reasonable and present plausible logical arguments no matter what they're doing, but i dislike the angles they've taken with their reads and where they've engaged to a degree, and neither has presented a lot of Caring about their reads or state in the game at this point

which is just me trying to find slightly different words than the ones i used talking to visor just now-- essentially, both feel like they are Making Points but lacking in the depth and subtleties that i expect to see from them as villagers

i'm not smitten with gh's swap onto amy and i wanted to give amy some space after her posts just now (i don't think they sway the needle entirely, but i resonate with the humanity in them), thus the vote switch just now

re: esooa - if you’re talking about her saying she was nervous about playing with this roster, i agree. i used to think that kind of sentiment was more NAI but in the past several months i’ve noticed that whenever i’ve expressed that kind of sentiment or seen others express it, it’s always been as villa. my theory is that villagers are more likely to vocalize that imposter syndrome type feeling because they’re just being transparent about their mindset and have no reason not to be, whereas wolves shy away from it because they associate expressing nervousness with wolfiness or just like, vulnerability and they tend to want to craft a different sort of image

[Montmorency]

ye if i wasnt voting amy id be hard pressed to not vote dya sadly

ill have to give dya an iso later
@Montmorency

what do you think of the pzelda townread phenom

A source of spew one way or another, for those who care to review D1 in midgame.

Independently, maybe I'm just way off in a contrarian muddle here in light of the consensus. When a (non-mechanical) consensus forms around a player D1 it deserves privileging absent a strong compulsion to the contrary.

All I can recall from the meta is that Zelda is more aggressive as scum, but I can't even evaluate just how aggressive he's been here against baseline. But what really pinged me is that I straight-up disliked his reasoning about most everything, substantively. I can't recall how that fits into meta either. Regrettable, as I should have a good grasp on his style after receiving it in a good number of games and mix of roles in short succession (6?). Such is the life of the amnesiac protagonist.

If that's all the traction my commentary is getting for now, I'll log off.

Y'all read my walls or I probably won't respond to anything concerning me!

[Montmorency]

Actually, when I said aggressive, maybe I meant passive-aggressive. One or the other.

Then again, I can't even articulate the difference in abstract in mafia context.

[Hally]

pzelda>Esooa>GH>Cuth,you, Hally.

I can't really explain the zelda read any better. Other than from last game to this game looks the same to me, so I don't think it's hard to infer that zelda's probably town here. I don't have much to say about the other's that I haven't already said somewhere else.

Cuth, Ara, Hally are just people I felt okay with from skimming the thread, I don't really have anything to point to, to say why exactly. Just that they were people who seemed good to me. I don't want to think about it too much tbh.

I don't understand your second question if I'm honest. Dolby's usually pretty clear-cut and has well thought-out insights regarding the game. This just looks really messy to me. I dunno, it's not really that good of an argument, but ~

reading csargo’s posts keeps giving me the feeling of a wolf that doesn’t really know what to post/how to fake reads. his explanations have felt so vague and nondescript that i feel like he’s kinda just saying stuff to say it

any of the org folk have a take on this? are these kinds of posts normal for him?

[Arapocalypse]

and now for something completely different.

I like to play sudokus while listening to lofi beats playlists.

who finds this relateable

That's extremely relatable!!!!!!

Though I've gotten into nonograms lately, courtesy of Esooa; they're very hype!!!!

[Hally]

i dont remember anymore

bruh

[Ephemeral]

Vote: dyachei

[Hally]

that dya sequence of “i like ara” -> “i’m nodding along to her posts” -> “i don’t remember what i was nodding along to” in the span of 15 min is a thonk

i know dya said they were super tired but c’mon

[Ephemeral]

I've really liked cuth catching up

nl has been trending up too

[Ephemeral]

I feel like Amy could kiiiind of go either way atm?

I've got mostly selfish concerns because I think she would've tried to bounce off me harder as a villager esp since she was repping a v read on my slot

But I could be totally off on that metric lol

[Hally]

anyone have thoughts on esooa not caring about the actual content of my post but that i

a) posted a read

b) posted a long post?

i mean she quoted the wall but had nothing to say on it

idk, its a case, i would like feedback

the only i got from it was it felt vaguely not w/w with amy because i kinda feel like an amy teammate would feel the need to say something about the actual content of the case

[Arapocalypse]

morning

i fixed my sleep schedule

even though it won't last long lol

i'll be catching up ~slowly~ while i get breakfast

Gooooood morning!!!!!!

It's mafia hype times!!!!

Did you have any exciting mafia dreams?

[Arapocalypse]

that dya sequence of “i like ara” -> “i’m nodding along to her posts” -> “i don’t remember what i was nodding along to” in the span of 15 min is a thonk

i know dya said they were super tired but c’mon

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I want to say that they'd make up something there? I feel like many if not all of my posts were !!!!!!! and it would not have been difficult to just pick a post or two out!!

Take that with a grain of salt though, I guess!!!

[Hally]

Town
pzelda | Hally | Esooa

Town enough
Ara | Visor

Town for now
Sunbae | Colonel | Csargo

Unsure/no data available
Cuth | Manasi | Maple | Monty

Concerns
Dolby | Ephemeral | Amy

Not really ordered within tiers. Going to bed now, will answer followups (if any) in the AM.

lol @ you forgetting dya existed. kinda says a lot

[Arapocalypse]

what did you like about amy’s thing with me/eph? to me it felt like the kinda thing that a wolf thinks they would say as a villager but actually wouldn’t. also the phrasing of “pocketing” made me feel like she was trying to pocket us. think ladd called it like a reverse pocket? or something. but like, that

I initially liked it because it feels like something town would approach the game with (yeah I'm going to be careful about these players), but only somewhat because it's something that could easily have been thought/considered pre-rand!!!

[Hally]

extremely dumb take: gh probably doesn’t forget to put dya in his reads if they’re w/w

[Ephemeral]

Gooooood morning!!!!!!

It's mafia hype times!!!!

Did you have any exciting mafia dreams?

i've dreamed of sleeping while sleeping

[Arapocalypse]

I like Montmorency's walls; feels very !!!!!!!!!!! in a towny way, just getting those thoughts out there!!!!!!!! Waterfalls and everything!!! Mitigating factor that there have been few walls in this game so far and I may be subconsciously inclined to read the condensed content as towny for that reason; however... I like his general conviction and stuff expressed in his posts, particularly the last one; very hype and feels like he's playing without being concerned about an agenda!!

Also, I appreciate the further thoughts on Capage and have taken those into account!!!

No this isn't a TWTBAW read, it's just a straight up towny read!!!!

Regarding the game I was referring to earlier, yeah that was an interesting game... or a disappointing/boring game, depending on your perspective!! Weird stuff where after day 1 eliminated mafia, the rest ended up following suit in unchallenged wagons in the next few days, bit of a bizarre game!

[Hally]

@Montmorency talk about your pzelda vote? was trying to find an explanation in your catchup but i don’t see one

[Arapocalypse]

extremely dumb take: gh probably doesn’t forget to put dya in his reads if they’re w/w

Sure?

I'd be extremely amused if GH randed mafia with Manti yet again!!!!!

[Arapocalypse]

i've dreamed of sleeping while sleeping

Why sleep when you could mafia instead?

Also I'm about where you are at on Amy as well, roughly; hoping for more hype before EoD though as it'd be nice to have a better read there!!