Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[ColonelLubriderm]

Question to everyone which I would to pose, and request an answer that has had at least a minute or so of thought beyond "I was on Csargo's wagon": why are you still alive?

Why would the Csargo voters be more likely to be killed for voting Csargo?

[ColonelLubriderm]

Why would the Csargo voters be more likely to be killed for voting Csargo?

I misread this, i thought you were asking only csargo voters

[ColonelLubriderm]

Question to everyone which I would to pose, and request an answer that has had at least a minute or so of thought beyond "I was on Csargo's wagon": why are you still alive?

"I was on Csargo's wagon" is the oversimplification of why i'm alive. Not because I was literally there, but the fact i pushed them the hardest made it so I had heat on day 2 from several people making me a viable candidate to be miseliminated. It made it so I was never a consenseus villa, always "probably villa i hope" at best. It made it sop everyone was concerned that I could be a deep wolf and that underlying concern is why i'm never a nightkill. Then post dobby I was pushing to resolve in people that ended up being villagers.

That is why I am alive.

[ColonelLubriderm]

The one thing manasi did this game that I remember is sheeping visor on dyachei then coming into day 2 saying dya is outted. This stood out to me because dya who was flustered because people weren't giving her a chance. IIRC she read manasi as a villa though and this I found odd because if villa dya was angry at people shitting on their work, then i don't think they give an easy villa read to someone pushing them in that spot. Originally i internally parsed this as looking ok for manasi but maybe it could be the other way. I need to reread dya to make sure she was villa reading manasi on day 2 post self vote. LOL dont need to, i took notes rereading day 2 and i have it that dya v read manasi post self vote in post 1395(this is not a clever way to slip in notes I take on the game to incept the idea that notetaking means im a villager, however this parenthetical is). Dya also villa reading visor too(1410). Pushed on esooa(pre self vote)/manti(1386/1410). She sarcastically popped in to make a comment when i suggested not eliminating dya(and poison them overnight instead) then disappeared and came back with another sarcastic comment when i changed my mind. I need to probably see who else she talked sarcastically towards.

I believe mafia have a roleblocker/role seer. I don't have hard evidence of this but i think it makes the most sense. They have 2 roles IMO because why else have a full backup. I also believe they knew manti was the vig and let him shoot freely. I'm not sure if any of this is immeadiately useful to the current situation. I thnk this means manasi either less likely wolf or wolf with ara? unsure. Probably doesnt matter either way.

pzelda/ephemeral kills are weird because while sure theyt were villa read(pz moreso than eph) Hally was universally clearer in everyone's eyes from what I could tell. However, pzelda was just as consensus(less active) and ephemeral can have other reasons behind the kill(ie giving credance to dya wagon being good).

I have negative desirre to dig into this thread so instead i've just been babbling off random thoughts.

i'm going to poop and then do a sudoku

[ColonelLubriderm]

if peopel don't like me poking in visor/manasi team when i said yesterday they can't be together then you are probably not gonna like a few gamedays ago when i said to always execute into cuth/monte/maple then re-evaluate because there has to be a wolf there.

[Manasi]

I read this post and I feel like ara/manasi were last two wolves and both just checked out yesterday and ara wasn’t villagy for pushing manasi over cuth/Monty but just figured manasi was inevitable and bussing only chance not getting the thread want of cuth/monte due to being away(or maybe they did get it and defended them anyways)

cant check out if you were never checked in kekw

Question to everyone which I would to pose, and request an answer that has had at least a minute or so of thought beyond "I was on Csargo's wagon": why are you still alive?

see above

[Manasi]

why is bop wallposting

cringe

dya was weird d1 which is why i felt comfortable sheeping the nl read - i had nfi what she read me as lol

[Visor]

" I need to probably see who else she talked sarcastically towards."

think i am gonna clear you for this not sure you think to say that as a wolf

weird read maybe but shrug

[Visor]

at the very least i dont think you are a wolf with manasi or hally today

(or ara really)

so the only person would be esooa and they said they think you are a wolf so its not that

if i were to pick the 2 people with the worst posts so far itd be manasi/esooa but ara not far off lol

[Manasi]

at the very least i dont think you are a wolf with manasi or hally today

(or ara really)

so the only person would be esooa and they said they think you are a wolf so its not that

if i were to pick the 2 people with the worst posts so far itd be manasi/esooa but ara not far off lol

that's fair i suppose, but unfortunately we're at the point where we either sleep or lunch a wolf right? ml'ing only loses

zzz i wish i cared more earlier in the game but i figured the first two days were easy because loldya but then completely checked out for the rest

my kill order is somewhere in ara > bop > hally

i dont want to kill esooa sry

[Manasi]

that's fair i suppose, but unfortunately we're at the point where we either sleep or lunch a wolf right? ml'ing only loses

zzz i wish i cared more earlier in the game but i figured the first two days were easy because loldya but then completely checked out for the rest

my kill order is somewhere in ara > bop > hally

i dont want to kill esooa sry

obviously im saying this knowing we don't really have 3 kills unless we hit today

just kinda where my brain is - i can prob put hally as villa to the poitn where i don't wanna vote em just zzz

[Manasi]

" I need to probably see who else she talked sarcastically towards."

think i am gonna clear you for this not sure you think to say that as a wolf

weird read maybe but shrug

i think it's just kinda a bad read but ymmv

[Visor]

that's fair i suppose, but unfortunately we're at the point where we either sleep or lunch a wolf right? ml'ing only loses

zzz i wish i cared more earlier in the game but i figured the first two days were easy because loldya but then completely checked out for the rest

my kill order is somewhere in ara > bop > hally

i dont want to kill esooa sry

walk me through it

[ColonelLubriderm]

rereading visor's day 1 and i just think he's a villager.

he barely pushed dya but i liked the stuff about amy and the way he interacted with sunbae/GH.

I say barely pushed because searching for dyachei and i get 3 posts, 2 of which are just votes. If you open it to dya too there is one where he says dya because they don't want to be here.

[ColonelLubriderm]

like, if you v read dolby i could see where that would be setting off alarms for you wrt gh but you don’t so i’m not sure what the connection you’re drawing is

is it the nature of gh’s push? the timing? the tone? or something else?

this was @ monty, sorry

posts like this is why i've always had hally so high all game. It's not that she's present, shes thinking about people's reads tryign to see if it makes sense showing how they are trying to figure the game out.

[ColonelLubriderm]

like, if you v read dolby i could see where that would be setting off alarms for you wrt gh but you don’t so i’m not sure what the connection you’re drawing is

is it the nature of gh’s push? the timing? the tone? or something else?

this was @ monty, sorry

I did not realize Maple already had 2 votes on him already, I thought I was being unique!!!!!

Thanks Ephemeral for the thoughts on Hally; that's mostly what I thought it was, was mostly just wondering if I'd missed anything for them being at the tom!!

Wow, is the solving bar for me really that low, GH? :P

The dyachei push feels boring with them having left so early and actually having a traditional sleeping schedule!!!

I do not have rocks in my brain, more like... lava!!!!!! Hot, bubbling lava!!!!! That being said, Amy's entrance to the thread seems... okay? #letSunbaehavetownreads2k21!!!!! (Yes I have acknowledged that I'm being pocketed regardless of his alignment, no I don't care right now because it is warm and cozy in here, and it's -93 outside!!!)

Visor is, hmm...

pzelda is Capage? I'm shrug about him but may dig up my Capage metaread as that was halfway decent; I don't really get why people are townreading him? Feels sort of overdefensive in a few places that is sort of ???

Liking generally Hally's flow of stuff, Ephemeral has been okay!!!!

GH/Bop are [redacted]!!! I've been staring at #449 for a few minutes now though and I feel like I should have thoughts on this, but just don't? Weird things; think I'm leaning towards not liking it, but Hally's post was good!!

What on earth am I missing on Capage!!!!!!!!!!! Someone here is the problem, and I feel like it's me!!!!

ara mid d1 reads.

[ColonelLubriderm]

like, if you v read dolby i could see where that would be setting off alarms for you wrt gh but you don’t so i’m not sure what the connection you’re drawing is

is it the nature of gh’s push? the timing? the tone? or something else?

this was @ monty, sorry

I did not realize Maple already had 2 votes on him already, I thought I was being unique!!!!!

Thanks Ephemeral for the thoughts on Hally; that's mostly what I thought it was, was mostly just wondering if I'd missed anything for them being at the tom!!

Wow, is the solving bar for me really that low, GH? :P

The dyachei push feels boring with them having left so early and actually having a traditional sleeping schedule!!!

I do not have rocks in my brain, more like... lava!!!!!! Hot, bubbling lava!!!!! That being said, Amy's entrance to the thread seems... okay? #letSunbaehavetownreads2k21!!!!! (Yes I have acknowledged that I'm being pocketed regardless of his alignment, no I don't care right now because it is warm and cozy in here, and it's -93 outside!!!)

Visor is, hmm...

pzelda is Capage? I'm shrug about him but may dig up my Capage metaread as that was halfway decent; I don't really get why people are townreading him? Feels sort of overdefensive in a few places that is sort of ???

Liking generally Hally's flow of stuff, Ephemeral has been okay!!!!

GH/Bop are [redacted]!!! I've been staring at #449 for a few minutes now though and I feel like I should have thoughts on this, but just don't? Weird things; think I'm leaning towards not liking it, but Hally's post was good!!

What on earth am I missing on Capage!!!!!!!!!!! Someone here is the problem, and I feel like it's me!!!!

0-1 mafia:
hally
dolby


0-2 mafia
sunbae
gh
visor
cuth

1-4 mafia
ephemeral
pzelda
maple
arapocalypse
esooa

2-4 mafia
dyachei
ampharos
csargo
montmorency
manasi

my d1 reads list

so you don't have to find it for yourself

If manasi is mafia and hally is town this list is fire

[ColonelLubriderm]

sorry about the quotes

[ColonelLubriderm]

anyone have thoughts on esooa not caring about the actual content of my post but that i

a) posted a read

b) posted a long post?

i mean she quoted the wall but had nothing to say on it

idk, its a case, i would like feedback

I like this post from day 1 for visor too

[ColonelLubriderm]

that dya sequence of “i like ara” -> “i’m nodding along to her posts” -> “i don’t remember what i was nodding along to” in the span of 15 min is a thonk

i know dya said they were super tired but c’mon

At the risk of sounding like a broken record, I want to say that they'd make up something there? I feel like many if not all of my posts were !!!!!!! and it would not have been difficult to just pick a post or two out!!

Take that with a grain of salt though, I guess!!!

the first post looks good for hally
the second post is ara's response to the first

[ColonelLubriderm]

I got burned hard by Csargo in Zelda's game with items and more than 17 players that was themed on some board game (tbh I kinda purged it from memory), but the two prior games that he scummed that I witnessed (one game I was town, the other maf) I felt that he was pretty obvious. Didn't really engage with people and just gave takes seemingly for the purpose of giving takes unless he was specifically asked about something. Haven't played with him or really noticed him in a game in a while, and I respect the differences brought up by GH and others but this feels overall more like town him than scum him in my experience

pzelda

I'm gonna ignore lacking people bc I'm making a decision on them soon but maybe Maple or Manasi? This isn't because I don't like them but more because I haven't seen anything I've liked from them that I remember

Vote: RRRaskolnikov

Let it rand.

three way tie pog

dolby eod1 for reference

[ColonelLubriderm]

Reading through EoD, starting from ~4 hours before EoD (#961, I'm on 80ppp):


Liked various Dolby takes and things, felt like him trying to consider people from different angles (see: GH read) was done in a fairly towny fashion!!!! Also, real thoughts on Csargo ~15 minutes before EoD, feel like dya could have actually gone over there!


Overall thoughts from EoD: liked Dolby/Ephemeral/maybe GH, Manasi fence but slightest town, Maple fence, dya/Visor fence but slight mafia!!

On day 1, dolby was in ara's top 3 town.

After rereading eod, dolby is still ara's town.

Look at dolby's eod, they villa read csargo and then voted rasko to try to make it a 3 way tie to "let it rand." There is no dya read from dolby that i can find. I do not see what ara finds towny in dolby's eod. It's not like he tried to save his townread. He just tried to make it harder for them to lose a rand.

[Visor]

vote: esooa

[ColonelLubriderm]

Raskolnikov, legacy reads hype?

Also same to Bop/Visor!!!

if you think visor has a chance of being nk'd why were you sussing him?

[Visor]

this is me pulling the sunbae doctrine

i'm sorry but esooa is a wolf

they voted dya once dya was a lead wagon, only threw meaningless qustions at them prior and had nothing to say about them in the reads list despite being a top wolf candidate to them apparently

i am highly unlikely to back down from this vote

sorry if wrong esooa, other villagers for throwing this game but i dont care about dolby reads or interactions, i have to go with what i think is the most likely answer and that is esooa

[ColonelLubriderm]

this is me pulling the sunbae doctrine

i'm sorry but esooa is a wolf

they voted dya once dya was a lead wagon, only threw meaningless qustions at them prior and had nothing to say about them in the reads list despite being a top wolf candidate to them apparently

i am highly unlikely to back down from this vote

sorry if wrong esooa, other villagers for throwing this game but i dont care about dolby reads or interactions, i have to go with what i think is the most likely answer and that is esooa

guess we race to see who can get their snap votes off tomorrow

[Zack]

Official Tally as of #3328

1 Esooa (Visor)
1 Manasi (Hally)
1 No Elimination (ColonelLubriderm)

Not Voting: Arapocalypse, Esooa, Manasi

tally is still the same, by my count

[Visor]

this is the worst person to vote of these 3 imo

it relates to what you said would have been the reason I have weak wolf reads

I just got out of bed to go eat with my dad so I'm not gonna post much. anyways

vote: dya

guess we race to see who can get their snap votes off tomorrow

given everyone apparently village reads me i may actually die tonight in a shock turn of events

i'm not complaining!

[Visor]

so you think ara is a wolf bop?

with who?

[ColonelLubriderm]

this is me pulling the sunbae doctrine

i'm sorry but visor is a wolf

they voted dya owhen dya wasn't a real couynterwagon, never talked about them prior and had little to say about them despite being a top wolf candidate to them apparently

i am highly unlikely to back down from this vote

sorry if wrong visor, other villagers for throwing this game but i dont care about dya reads or interactions, i have to go with what i think is the most likely answer and that is visor

ftfy