Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[Visor]

If we are talking lack of urgency I'd also say esooa and Ara fit there somehow more than manasi

Though manasi defending esooa is weird cause I don't think manasi has paid attention this game

[Visor]

Bop the reason I stopped caring this game was that I was sad at what was happening in the mash

Frustrated at losing the flip, etc

[Visor]

vote: sleep

[Manasi]

If we are talking lack of urgency I'd also say esooa and Ara fit there somehow more than manasi

Though manasi defending esooa is weird cause I don't think manasi has paid attention this game

i haven't really paid much attention to intricacies i guess

im kinda hyper focused on if dya randomly tries to bus esooa when nobody was really listening to them

[Visor]

i haven't really paid much attention to intricacies i guess

im kinda hyper focused on if dya randomly tries to bus esooa when nobody was really listening to them

why not? the potential is there, spew a partner v when the wagon isnt really ever gonna take off

[Hally]

ara/bop - gonna rule this out based on how hard bop is going at ara today
ara/esooa - i don’t think anything rules this out and it’s probably one of the likelier worlds actually
ara/manasi - again, i don’t think anything rules this out and i think it fits well
ara/visor - gonna rule this out based on how ara was pushing visor/his reaction to it

bop/esooa - coming into toDay i would have said this is possible but i think it’s a lot less likely now given bop’s recent posts
bop/manasi - only pair with bop that fits? still think it’s a good fit with how bop is pushing on ara/esooa over manasi
bop/visor - gonna rule this out too based on how they’ve been treating each other. also i’m probably never getting there anyway if this is it

esooa/manasi - one of the likelier worlds based on how esooa wasn’t pushing manasi D4 despite having her low. also manasi’s read on esooa
esooa/visor - definitely not lol

manasi/visor - only team with visor that i can’t rule out entirely but i don’t think it’s a great fit


this was all off the top of my head so i might have missed stuff but what i’m thinking is bop and visor really only fit with manasi (bop moreso than visor). also possible in an ultra hard world that they’re with each other and have been distancing without ever committing to pushing the other but i don’t think i’m getting there if so and it doesn’t seem likely anyway

ara, esooa and manasi all fit well together afaict. also, ara and esooa really only fit with each other and manasi, whereas manasi also fits well with bop

so this reaffirms to me that i should be focusing on ara/esooa/manasi. bop and visor are both more villagery and fit into less worlds

[Hally]

vote: sleep

[Visor]

"Also while visor's quoted posts aren't 100% similar there are some things that he quoted between you and pilica that remind me of you and dolby day 1 interaction when dolby tried to give you a villa read that you rebuked him for."

ya exactly

[ColonelLubriderm]

can you talk about this more? how specifically does his play this game compare to how you imagine he would play as a wolf?

I'm not sure what you mean. I think anything in this game is not outside his range as a wolf. Unless esooa is a wolf. I don't think he would ever push esooa over monty/cuth for days if they were w/w when there are simpler paths to victory unless he really feels like dragging his balls across the villages face.

I Cant for 100% tell you that his motivations day 1 was to push amy/dya as wolves or if it was to push a misyeet on amy while attatching a wolfbro to it for some future credit if they ever flip. He voted dya when csargo was in the lead with 4 votes with a bunch of wagons at 2. I could probably have told you that dya isn't going over there because most people here know dya and would want to give her the benefit of the doubt. So can I parse on those actions alone whether or not he's a villa. Nope. but reading his iso i liked his day 1 and I want to say its more villagy than not.

I didn't really like his day 2 and if esooa is a villa then I like it even less. He pushes the line of dya/gh w/w and never really backs down from it. Which is something i think wolves would want. You can argue that wolves think GH has a high chance of getting poisoned anyays so there is no need to w/w them and sure that is true. But knowing all the alignments from the d1 wagons now, pushing them as w/w is more beneficial to the wolf wincon(ie getting GH out of the game with villa killpower) than not.

Also at the end of day 2, he briefly floats wanting to go esooa instead. I don't think the idea is bad(ie scum reading esooa) before the dya flip, but going esooa first is weird. However there was no way dya wasnt going that day so him saying this really meant little else other than "lets not forget about esooa"


I kind of think his esooa push is more villagy than wolfy, especially how at the start of day 4 he decided to go with esooa being a villa but then said fuck it im going esooa.

The most likely way he's a wolf in that world is if he's a wolf with manasi, because lets assume manti was peeked(because he died last night). He would need a villa to kill after monte/cuth and manasi/visor w/w is a world where esooa push makes sense. If he's a wolf with anyone else, manasi would be a villager and a much easier target. I guess its possible for him to be with someone else and wanted to pocket manasi for the easy villa vote on his side at lylo he'd do this but I think that is less likely(not impossible).

no idea if this answered your question but these are my visor ramblings.

[Hally]

@Esooa can you walk me through how you went from having me/ara as your two highest villagers D4 to then putting us both below bop/visor toDay? what made you switch us that much?

[ColonelLubriderm]

i haven't really paid much attention to intricacies i guess

im kinda hyper focused on if dya randomly tries to bus esooa when nobody was really listening to them

there is apost dya had where she villa read visor for something with dolby and i blinked at it asking myself is this really w/w/w or did dya try to antispew visor before dolby's flip.(ie get sus put on him)

i dont remember the exact post so im probably butchering the explanation

[ColonelLubriderm]

vote: unvote

i dont want sleep to maj before i get to hally

[Hally]

thanks for that bop. i was just meaning if you have specific insight into how visor plays as a wolf that you see reflected in his play this game. more of a meta question about what you think his tendencies as a wolf are because i’ve never seen him wolf

[Visor]

the mash was my most recent wolf game outside of a light game and old cat, so i havent randed wolf in a regular game in 3 years or so lol

[Hally]

but you pretty much answered it

[Hally]

the mash was my most recent wolf game outside of a light game and old cat, so i havent randed wolf in a regular game in 3 years or so lol

yea, i actually skimmed old cat earlier because it was also bop’s most recent wolf game in the database but it seemed like a weird game and not really useful lol

[ColonelLubriderm]

there is apost dya had where she villa read visor for something with dolby and i blinked at it asking myself is this really w/w/w or did dya try to antispew visor before dolby's flip.(ie get sus put on him)

i dont remember the exact post so im probably butchering the explanation

i think i remembered wrong

i cant find it at all

[ColonelLubriderm]

yea, i actually skimmed old cat earlier because it was also bop’s most recent wolf game in the database but it seemed like a weird game and not really useful lol

if you want a visor/bop wolf game

go take a look at Super Smash Bros

[Hally]

i don’t know why manti thought having 30 players with a post cap and week long phases was a good idea

[Hally]

if you want a visor/bop wolf game

go take a look at Super Smash Bros

is that on MU?

[ColonelLubriderm]

is that on MU?

it is

[ColonelLubriderm]

there are 2.5 hours left today and i have negative desire to do isos and i have to meet with an italian russian about a thing in 30 minutes.

[Visor]

its... 5 years ago?

i think

#teamspicy

[Hally]

the mash?

[Visor]

there are 2.5 hours left today and i have negative desire to do isos and i have to meet with an italian russian about a thing in 30 minutes.

well i guess ranked list/thoughts and leave it at that?

if you had to pick who was most likely to be a wolf individually and what you think is most likelt the team, who do you pick?

[Hally]

i’m not reading that lol

[Visor]

the mash?

yeah

(not frogs mash, the earlier one by beck)

[Hally]

yeah

(not frogs mash, the earlier one by beck)

yea, i found it

[Visor]

esooa asking a bunch of questions instead of caring about the outcome yday was notable too

at eod

[Hally]

i started skimming anni2019 when i woke up because i saw bop was a wolf in that too but then i stopped reading his posts and started looking at all the cool roles