Mass Effect 17er [Game Thread]

[ColonelLubriderm]

does manti hammer csargo d1 to save dya as their partner only to do an abrupt turnaround the next day with no sensible progression

it seems kinda dumb?

but their interactions d2 do give off a bit of a manufactured feel

can i have a second pair of eyes on this

I had this thought with the AtE photoshop manti did

[Ephemeral]

idt nl was a bus vote on dya

I'm not sure how to put it into words beyond that I think the way he played it felt completely natural in a way which I don't really see a wolf who's running their partner up at eod would feel like

I don't see anything in the way of "setting myself up to take cred for this later" from how he played eod1

[ColonelLubriderm]

Hally
Esooa

Eph
Manasi
Visor
Ara

Manti

Cuth

Montenot
Logic

Something like that

[Ephemeral]

Manasi is a bit harder to parse on this due to the lack of content/lack of familiarity with her

but I also don't... really think that was a bus either?

Like the way she just came in and vibed for a bit and then sheeped nl onto dya

I'd be really surprised if that was a bus like ~ever, but I'll let the manasi experts chime in with whether she'd pull off a move like that as a wolf or not

[ColonelLubriderm]

I had this thought with the AtE photoshop manti did

Re:manufactured

Like it was too over the top

[Ephemeral]

I had this thought with the AtE photoshop manti did

aye that was in the same section I was thinking of

[Ephemeral]

also fwiw that ate photoshop is a fol meme

got pretty popular lately

[ColonelLubriderm]

If logic is a wolf my day 1 mason if of him is NOT gonna age well

[ColonelLubriderm]

also fwiw that ate photoshop is a fol meme

got pretty popular lately

I didn’t know that

[Ephemeral]

Right so here's a thought exercise

Dya starts getting run up near d1 eod, to no one's surprise

Knowing that rask and csargo were both villagers, dya could easily set themselves up to push whichever of the 2 they wanted greatly improving their odds of living through d1

Instead dya sets off to push on esooa, a wagon that would never take off at that point given their respective positions ITT and foregoes any play at self-pres

Why do y'all think that is?

[ColonelLubriderm]

Official Tally as of #991

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)

2 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor)
2 Ephemeral (GeneralHankerchief, dyachei)
2 GeneralHankerchief (Cuthillius, Ephemeral)
2 pzelda (Montmorency, Dolby)

1 Cuthillius (Maple)
1 Dolby (Csargo)
1 Maple (Esooa)
1 Raskolnikov (pzelda)

Not Voting: Manasi

Wagons when dya voted esooa

They voted right after csargo shortly after this count.

Initial thought is that they just were not around at eod to switch

[ColonelLubriderm]

From dya perspective at the time,

!vGH prob never goes through
Zelda not going through
Eph not gaining traction
Piling on csargo makes csargo go on her making her the counter

After csargo votes esooa it really becomes the choice to put to 2 t9 give a chance to become a counter and that’s if you are putting deep thought into it at the time.

It could just as easily be
1. Sees villa vote player I called wolfy
2. I vote that player too
3. Can’t be around for eod(or is there to snipe if needed)

[Ephemeral]

mmm yeah that's possible

wasn't really accounting for them potentially not being around given they were there a couple of hours before or so

[ColonelLubriderm]

Looking at dolby/logic eod1

Minutes before voting rask someone asks why Amy slot was a wagon and they respond that “visor doesn’t like Amy’s read on them”(paraphrase I think). Seems dismissive. To then want to vote rask to “let it rand”

I’m pretty sure they said csargo was a villa too so that prevents voting there(need to double check)

Visor quoted a post where Dolby said dya did something he didn’t like but no dya vote

[Visor]

Looking at dolby/logic eod1

Minutes before voting rask someone asks why Amy slot was a wagon and they respond that “visor doesn’t like Amy’s read on them”(paraphrase I think). Seems dismissive. To then want to vote rask to “let it rand”

I’m pretty sure they said csargo was a villa too so that prevents voting there(need to double check)

Visor quoted a post where Dolby said dya did something he didn’t like but no dya vote

the post i quoted was a joke responding to dyas post if you click through (just repeatign what dya said)

the only other time they mention dya was the other bit i mentioned

[ColonelLubriderm]

I don't like this thing that dya did

I never clicked through, didn’t realize it was a joke

[Esooa]

not really understanding the monty scum reads

[ColonelLubriderm]

skimming MOnte's post near eod1, he talks about raso/amy and csargo and the plusses/minuses of their wagons but the only things he says about dyachei is "I agree with GH that it is like ampharos but lesser"

knowing the flips now it definitely looks bad but I think even not knowing the flips it looks bad because there is consideration given to rasko/csargo and virtually nothing for dya.

Especially since he switched from rasko to csargo taking dya from lead wagon to tied
@Visor you mention me and maple putting dya over the top, but lettuce not forget montecorenot

[ColonelLubriderm]

It's nothing personal, it's wagonomics. I want to see if there's movement. Am I wrong to do it from an objective standpoint?



I'll help. Sooner.

Vote: Csargo

Official Tally as of #1142

5 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally, Montmorency)
5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)

3 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, GeneralHankerchief)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)

1 GeneralHankerchief (Maple)
1 pzelda (Dolby)

VCs

there was no change in voting between the 7:35 votecount and when mont made his vote

[ColonelLubriderm]

Official Tally as of #1090

5 dyachei (Raskolnikov, Visor, Manasi, Ephemeral, Esooa)

4 Csargo (Sunbae, Arapocalypse, ColonelLubriderm, Hally)
4 Raskolnikov (pzelda, Cuthillius, GeneralHankerchief, Montmorency)

2 Esooa (Csargo, dyachei)

1 GeneralHankerchief (Maple)
1 pzelda (Dolby)

this is the 7:35 i forgot to multiquote above

[Cuthillius]

the think that irked me the most about cuth other than the dya defense was how he characterized me saying to giver her a chance to do her thing was me defending them. it was an attempt at me trying to get people not to badger them so it doesnt turn into an AtE where we have to decide is dya annoyed as a villa or a wolf(which it did)

no i was

actually pushing you for the opposite, for tacitly accepting a dya!w world, lightly saying you thought they were v, but not getting invested in the read at all in either direction

[Maple]

Gm yall

[Cuthillius]

again in a v/v world

anyway

i'm a little salty and a little sad about dya's play last phase

but so it goes

i'll be around later if my brain is working by then

[ColonelLubriderm]

no i was

actually pushing you for the opposite, for tacitly accepting a dya!w world, lightly saying you thought they were v, but not getting invested in the read at all in either direction

this is not how i felt and im tryign to figure out if you are misinterpretting me saying they could be villa with me thinking they are more likely to be villa or if you are a wolf twisting my words.

[Maple]

Waiting for my bois to get back into thread and do stuff

[ColonelLubriderm]

vote: montecorenot

[Maple]

vote: montecorenot

I agree

[Cuthillius]

this is not how i felt and im tryign to figure out if you are misinterpretting me saying they could be villa with me thinking they are more likely to be villa or if you are a wolf twisting my words.

dude i explained it a bunch of times

it was talking about how implicitly accepting that people other people were hard pushing were likely wolves and proceeding with a worldview where they are/where they kinda need to die anyway, and i said you and monty were both doing this, and you looked bad specifically if and only if gh/dya were v/v, whereas monty looked bad for that specific thing either way

i think you're conflating how strongly i felt about a read in terms of my opinions on either of those people with how many words i had to spend repeating what i'd already said before in slightly different words

[ColonelLubriderm]

dude i explained it a bunch of times

it was talking about how implicitly accepting that people other people were hard pushing were likely wolves and proceeding with a worldview where they are/where they kinda need to die anyway, and i said you and monty were both doing this, and you looked bad specifically if and only if gh/dya were v/v, whereas monty looked bad for that specific thing either way

i think you're conflating how strongly i felt about a read in terms of my opinions on either of those people with how many words i had to spend repeating what i'd already said before in slightly different words

i disagree with the premise that i didnt feel strongly about dya being a wolf but it doesnt matter at this point.

[Maple]

So how yall doing