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    Default Help with MTW on Win 7 64 bit Series 6 laptop

    I installed Sepheus' ddraw_fix... to try to solve the resolution/graphics issues involved which stop the game from running on the newer faster machines and with more advanced graphics cards.

    After installing MTW 1.1 on my series 6 Win 7 64 bit laptop I installed the ddraw_fix... and it ran! YES! I got all the way to choosing a faction after tweaking the audio, video, game and performance options in the Options Menu. So, everything graphically is running fine, and now I am ready to load my faction, the map, and play a continuous campaign game.

    When I tried to then load my faction ("Easy", "Late Period"), the menu screen popped up instead, all wavy and weird, with dozens of mouse pointers stacking across my lower screen. I tried three times and the same or something similar happened after tweaking the resolution and colors in "Properties" for my start icon. My compatibility setting is "Windows XP 3rd iteration or whatever technospeak they call it."

    Is anyone out there able to help me understand and hopefully fix this problem?

    (And what does "CDT" which I have seen in other MTW posts mean? Does it refer to the same or related graphics issues?

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    Default Re: Help with MTW on Win 7 64 bit Series 6 laptop

    Quote Originally Posted by MarshaldeSaxe View Post

    (And what does "CDT" which I have seen in other MTW posts mean? Does it refer to the same or related graphics issues?
    Sorry, but this is the only bit I can help with: CTD - crash to desktop.

    I've tried getting MTW to work on my Win7 32-bit machine, but with limited success. Add in the 64-bit, I have no clues....
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    Default Re: Help with MTW on Win 7 64 bit Series 6 laptop

    I can only offer that I picked up the Steam version dirt cheap on sale and it runs fine on my old Win 7 64-bit Dell XPS laptop. I was playing it last week without problems, without needing to tweak any compatibility settings in Windows.

    Quite some time ago I tried my original CD-based version with all the patches and fixes listed here, and still had problems with it, similar to what you describe. I never did resolve them (until I picked up the version on Steam).
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    Default Re: Help with MTW on Win 7 64 bit Series 6 laptop

    I have been trading emails with Sega in the UK. They have someone looking into the problem. I am awaiting a response to the latest response I gave them yesterday, which was what happened before and after I disabled then re-enabled my Nividia card. The game simply keeps returning to the main menu and the bottom of that screen display is shaded and may or may not have the mouse pointer on it replicating repeatedy. I do not expect an answer which will fix the problem. I think they will not respond until the 7 day period is up and they pronounce it "solved," or they may simply say, "Sorry, we cannot resolve your issue."

    I believe I will have to see what Steam can do for me, because nobody is willing to hack the game file(s) which are causing this issue. Maybe it cannot be solved unless the game is re-programmed by the company which owns it now.

    A company which bought the Talonsoft war game series, (Waterloo, Prelude to Waterloo, Age of Sail, etc...), re-programmed the games and offered them for sale again on their website. The guy who re-programmed the games is an original programmer. They run fine on my newer Win 7 64 bit laptops. So, re-progamming can be done and MTW and other TW games could run on the newer machines if the company thought they could make enough money re-selling the newer versions.

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    Default Re: Help with MTW on Win 7 64 bit Series 6 laptop

    I've been hit with the same problem mentioned above, the incompatibility of Windows 7 with MTW.

    I have an older laptop which I figured would be easier to run MTW on but no, the CTD is not helping at all.
    @MarshaldeSaxe, any word from SEGA?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xantan View Post
    I've been hit with the same problem mentioned above, the incompatibility of Windows 7 with MTW.

    I have an older laptop which I figured would be easier to run MTW on but no, the CTD is not helping at all.
    @MarshaldeSaxe, any word from SEGA?
    Sega has been helping me and I must say the tech who contacts me with possible solutions has been patient and kind. Her name is Anna.
    Sega has sent me some possible actions I took with graphics adjustments but so far, up to today, they have not solved the problem.

    The next step they want me to take is to install another monitor on the Win 7 laptop I am using. I did that, but I could not see my mouse pointer nor any icons on either monitor, so they asked me to refer to a link on the web about installing another monitor on a Win7 machine.
    I have not yet accessed that link, but I have a few more days to do it and get back to Sega before the 7 day response or be blown off occurs.

    NOTE: I am intrigued that Medieval Total War was purchased on Steam and it ran. My question is: did you have to download Steam, and then how long both Steam and the game took to download?

    I tried to download a free game a few weeks ago and it said it would take 5 hours.

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    Default Re: Help with MTW on Win 7 64 bit Series 6 laptop

    Hi Marshal,

    I installed MTW at a friend's house about a week ago, it took around 20 mins with very fast internet. It's a small size program in the end so it will download very quickly with good internet.
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    Would you happen to have any idea why a comment said that the Steam download version ran fine on his/her newer computer yet the original MTW 1.1 Cd would not? What could be different to make the Steam download version run but the original CD not run?

    I am really curious because I don't want to go through the effort of renting (you don't actually "own" what you pay for on Steam, you get the use of it) the game and then find out it doesn't run.

    By the way, a Sega technician has been helping me for about a week suggesting various fixes and experiments, though so far they have not worked. She says she still has some other ideas to try, so lets see what happens.

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    Default Re: Help with MTW on Win 7 64 bit Series 6 laptop

    Technically, you don't own the box version of MTW either, since it grants you a licence not full ownership. The difference is that the CD stays with you so I guess that's still some form of ownership.

    Steam versions are slightly different, yes, to make them compatible with the platform and they have some built in bug fixes about compatibility. Making it run with Windows 10 for example since the original one isn't that happy to do so.
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    I can't remember but Medieval Total War had a CD Key, correct? You can add the game to steam with the cd key and then download it. That's how I got Medieval2 DE on Steam.
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    I couldn't see my response to Csargo so I am posting it again. How does adding a game to steam work? I have no idea how to do what you are suggesting. Could you please be more specific, like possibly with an itemized list of things I must do to accomplish that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MarshaldeSaxe View Post
    I couldn't see my response to Csargo so I am posting it again. How does adding a game to steam work? I have no idea how to do what you are suggesting. Could you please be more specific, like possibly with an itemized list of things I must do to accomplish that?
    https://support.steampowered.com/kb_...-WUSF-3601#how
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    Quote Originally Posted by Csargo View Post
    I can't remember but Medieval Total War had a CD Key, correct? You can add the game to steam with the cd key and then download it. That's how I got Medieval2 DE on Steam.
    M2TW worked, RTW worked, not sure if MTW & STW work for this. Can anyone chip in?
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    Quote Originally Posted by edyzmedieval View Post
    M2TW worked, RTW worked, not sure if MTW & STW work for this. Can anyone chip in?
    I just tried with M:TW this does not work, so that's a no go apparently. I have no idea why. It's possible the M:TW gold edition does, but I don't have that version of the game to try.
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    Speaking of MTW, it just occurred to me that the game will be... 20 years old... next year.
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