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    Default Re: Great Power contentions

    BTW, spmetla, do you buy now that a swarm of Iranian ASM could sink a carrier in the Strait of Hormuz?
    It could of course, it is always possible. A US Carrier Task Force though does have a lot of defensive firepower though so it'd take a few factors to get through the missile defense and screening ships.
    The USS Cole was almost sunk by a zodiac with a bomb aboard, no ships are invulnerable. The USS Missouri was almost hit in the Gulf War by Iraqi ASMs too, a Carrier could also be targeted though generally they'd be farther off shore (something the Persian Gulf naturally makes difficult). The UK Task Force in the Falklands lost several ships to ASMs too. They are a very capable threat but just like ATGMs are a threat to Tanks it doesn't make them obsolete either.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDfDnZ7FiZg

    The Moskva wasn't exactly a top-notch air defense platform though, despite the limited upgrades over time. It's employment also does make it seem as if the Russians didn't take a Ukrainian ASM threat seriously as its screens couldn't protect it.
    This together with the Russian Navy not having really had modern threat exercises or any combat experience beyond shore bombardment/support probably means their tactics to defend against modern threats was sub-par.

    Also, if the Russian Navy is anything like its army and air force then we can expect poorly trained crews with poor equipment and leadership attempting to do damage control and failing. Looking at the Russian coverup of the Kursk incident in peace-time I can't imagine we'll get any new light shed on this from the Russian side anytime soon.

    Edit: Interesting video using the DCS game to try and see how it could be sunk in this flight sim as well. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxwh6MGLJNc
    Last edited by spmetla; 04-17-2022 at 08:38.

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