Rampage Out of Space

[Winston Hughes]

can't, sorry.

touché

[hollowkatt]

gimme takes

Townies:
HK
Dolby
Winston
Gnome
pzelda

Lean Townie:
Borg


Wolfy:
El
Vroendal
panda

need to post moar:
Ibn
Laurentus
Csargo
Nanook
Lew

generally speaking, if you're in the townie bucket, it's because I like what you're doing, or you've had a post or two that I really jibed with, or you have made posts I generally agree with. You can ask me for more details on whomever

Panda I remember not liking yesterday, and don't remember anything from them today that changes my mind. Vroendal I'm sheeping pzelda on b/c I think they're a paragon of townieness. El it's a gut thing that I cannot explain at all but I want to kill him.

Borg is basically an always lean town till he's not.

The people who I have as needs to post more just need to post more for me to get a read on them.

[Dolby]

Can you tell me how Pzelda flipped from yesterday for you?

[hollowkatt]

touché

he just feels wrong. As soon as I can put words to it I will. I expect him to be displeased with this read

[Winston Hughes]

Townies:
HK
Dolby
Winston
Gnome
pzelda

Lean Townie:
Borg


Wolfy:
El
Vroendal
panda

need to post moar:
Ibn
Laurentus
Csargo
Nanook
Lew

generally speaking, if you're in the townie bucket, it's because I like what you're doing, or you've had a post or two that I really jibed with, or you have made posts I generally agree with. You can ask me for more details on whomever

Panda I remember not liking yesterday, and don't remember anything from them today that changes my mind. Vroendal I'm sheeping pzelda on b/c I think they're a paragon of townieness. El it's a gut thing that I cannot explain at all but I want to kill him.

Borg is basically an always lean town till he's not.

The people who I have as needs to post more just need to post more for me to get a read on them.

i want to hate this but i can't

if hk is scum, it's a work of art

am i being too generous?

[Winston Hughes]

he just feels wrong. As soon as I can put words to it I will. I expect him to be displeased with this read

if this is scum, i can only take my hat off

[Dolby]

Also gotta ask

how is Gnome distinctly towny rn for you?

[Winston Hughes]

am i too susceptible to hk's style here?

[hollowkatt]

Can you tell me how Pzelda flipped from yesterday for you?

I really really like the posts he made today. They read like town trying to solve and make sense of things and they don't feel contrived or forced. Like he is stream of consciousness posting and solving.

I probably put Nanook too high and he should be a tier lower because of Tim's posts. I think his provoking declarations about killing tim are more likely a reckless town without any developed reads just making noise than distancing. Tim possibly tried to pocket Nanook in his wall too. Nanook on his own, without associations, feels like a low effort town too.

You're right, I haven't read them yet.

Yeah, Csargo, this is kind of a good look for Dolby.

Before fully catching up, let me tell one thing. I think Tim flipping scum makes HK town for correctly calling out his meta. I think is important, because it was just meta and not HK going head on against Tim.

Since I wasn't here for Twilight:

I wanted to vote Rask, but I didn't like Csargo on Rask's wagon, so that put me off voting there.

I voted Dolby because of that post I quoted yesterday, where Dolby said "My issue with Rask is..." and then rattled off some issues. It felt very out of the blue, like "Ahh, Rask is getting some heat, I better prepare a valid reason for suspecting him in case I need to vote him"

And even though I was SRing Rask at the time, I SR'd Dolby more for that.

So,

Vote: Dolby

I'll do a proper re-read when I get to work, I only skimmed a few posts between my last post and EOD.

I don't know what to think about this post. Dolbster looks like an easy townread for me this game. His posts feels like genuine solving and he's not super reliant on meta. All of his findings make sense. Sticking to this read feels weak from you.

I need to reread d1, because I'm slightly confused by two totally different groups of reads happening right now.
I wonder if I should stick to rask/csargo w/v impression from page 1.
Gnome/Winston both feel like possible anti-towns. From their early interaction, I got a feeling that they might have a private chat together.
Dolby, HK, Lewwyn feels like towns, but I need to reread or pay more attention to new content from them to confirm this with evidence.
Borg Argon def town.
Ibn and Panda are under radar for me. Panda's posts felt like low impact "safe" posts. Ibn just posted without explaining a lot.
I don't remember a single post from Vroendal.
Nanook is sus, but I'm also currently influenced by Dolby's post.
El feels somehow lacking so far, but I'm sure he can pick it up, if town.

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showt...post2053820751

I don't think pzelda wolf makes these. He's not expanding poe, he's not pushing weird posts or looking for angle gotchas, he's just making solid posts.

[Winston Hughes]

I really really like the posts he made today. They read like town trying to solve and make sense of things and they don't feel contrived or forced. Like he is stream of consciousness posting and solving.

[hollowkatt]

Also gotta ask

how is Gnome distinctly towny rn for you?

Here's my list from about mid point yesterday or so

townies (not ordered)
El
Tim
Winston
Dolby
C4
Gnome
Lewwyn

Dunno
Everyone who's not already named

Do Day Murder To (not ordered)
BorgPicard
Raskol
pzelda
Panda

Gnome hasn't fallen out of the townies bucket... yet

[Csargo]

vote: sergeant visorslash

Vote:WH

[hollowkatt]

i want to hate this but i can't

if hk is scum, it's a work of art

am i being too generous?

You're being far too generous. I'd push me for that list

[Winston Hughes]

Vote:WH

[Csargo]

Dolby is truthsome in a way that makes me think not scum, but possibly sk.

possible, I felt bad about Dolby at the start of the game, reminiscent of the Zack game, but analysis wise it's more inline with t!Dolby

[Winston Hughes]

possible, I felt bad about Dolby at the start of the game, reminiscent of the Zack game, but analysis wise it's more inline with t!Dolby

What about Dolby reminded you of the Zack game?

[Csargo]

[Csargo]

What about Dolby reminded you of the Zack game?

The town read on c4 felt very similar to how he tr w!Esooa in Zack's game. It seemed like a more casual version of that to me.

[Winston Hughes]

You're being far too generous. I'd push me for that list

do you have any good reason to scumread me here?

[Winston Hughes]

The town read on c4 felt very similar to how he tr w!Esooa in Zack's game. It seemed like a more casual version of that to me.

I have no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds plausible. +1

[Dolby]

@Ibn-Khaldun

think this is needed

[Csargo]

I have no idea what you're talking about, but it sounds plausible. +1

I try. you probably had to be there.

[Dolby]

every time I look at Pzelda I feel that what I'm thinking isn't good

Trying to read IK, I kinda want to say his choice his to respond to Tims is maybe slightly not w/w but honestly I'm grasping at whatever straws I can because there mathematically has to be town among the people who decided to kinda push LA D1 for his cop shenanigans. Still think that going after Csargo was is alright given the context of the time, but also noticed that it follows the dicohotomy that Pzelda put forward earlier

I keep on thinking that Csargo is lightly town without seeing anything that sets it for me

I think that HK was doing not-mafia stuff during most parts of D1.

I think that Borg's choices in interaction with Tims over the course of the day is probably not mafia, but I am not committing to this read. I do think that he's generally town tbh, but again, unwilling to set it

Not seeing any reason to read GG town

Might actually move Lewwyn down a bit because thinking about it again I think that the Tims interactions that sold him to me are fakeable. I like almost all of his takes still, like in here

It felt like a pretty honest interaction to me. Dolby reads c4 as being more frustrated by the slower speed of development of the thread, and I think it's a good read.

Since then I think C4 has also leaned more town for me with his HK read, and Dolby has also continued to feel pretty townie, rather open and easy in manner.

Here's a bone: I think that LA and [REDACTED] both have heightened SK potential

gtg rn

[hollowkatt]

do you have any good reason to scumread me here?

I town read you lol

[Lewwyn]

I'm not ready. I had an opinion yesterday that Tim/Lew could be scumtheatre. Seeing the former flip scum raises that prospect today. And while the latter is posting extremely townie, I've seen him scum at RB enough times to know he's capable of convincing fakery. All of which gives my brain reasons to want to read him scummy here - it's a bias trap. I will definitely want to revisit that thought-process, but first I need to rebuild my overall picture by rereading the thread in light of the flips, so I'm not just looking for reasons why I was right.

Thanks for the faith in my skill.

I don't know as many people in this game so I've played it very straight. Luckily I'm just town so all I need to do is hunt scum.

[Lewwyn]

No, I didn't. Kind of by accident. My Wednesday evenings are super busy, and EOD occurred when I wasn't able to post. I intend to vote today, and it does look like people are saying more than they did yesterday.

I know that I am town.
hollowkatt is town, I think.
Let' me try to give some ideas about the others in another post.

Vote : Gnome

So I get the missing the vote, fine, but I don't think you've provided many reads beyond yourself and HK this game. I'm not a big fan of the being pushed into making reads and then not saying anything. You've been actively engaged in the conversation, but haven't really shown a critical eye to it. Since you're going to vote today who's it going to be?

[Lewwyn]

Dolby is truthsome in a way that makes me think not scum, but possibly sk.

On the other hand, Dolby's been sticking his head out more than is wise for an sk in this situation, and he probably knows better than that.

On the other other hand, I know better than that and it's never stopped me.

sk rand = the temptation of total joy

So Sk, but not Sk, but maybe Sk anyway. Got it.

[Lewwyn]

Townies:
El it's a gut thing that I cannot explain at all but I want to kill him.

Do you think that gut thing is contagious?

[pzelda]

I'm close to reading Vroe non-maf for this post.

The only thing stopping me is that Tim knows how prone I am to hard-townreading people who come at me like Vroe did.

Confidence says occam's razor; paranoia says leave a little asterisk.

What exactly makes you townlean vroe in that post? The way he scumread you for fairly good reasons or the way he compared himself to el? I think the former is a good list to sr someone, but it might be too focused on picturing you as scum, while being very articulate (in direct contrast to the second part of the post, where Vroe claimed that he couldn't analyze that early) to be a town post. Like my impression is that earl scumreads coming from town are way more chaotic than cleanly posting all reasons for a sr without a hint of doubt.

I know I might be wrong and call me out if you think differently.

[NANOOK]

Am I universally townread yet?