Rampage Out of Space

[Lewwyn]

Good morning fellow space citizens!

Page 1 - It looks like there's a wolf in csargo/rask. Dolby feels good. Borg guts town for fake derping.
Page 2 - I guess both wolves and towns posted on the page, but nothing decisive.
Page 3 - Lewwyn's choice of posts to respond to is noteworthy, but too light to be alignment indicative. Csargo being more active than usual is mildly unsettling.

Overall, not much to talk about yet. HK and Csargo could be waffles together, if Rask town, but that's a nasty association I got here. HK's approach to this game feels slightly diferent than the last time, but my alignment was different back then and It was easy to see towniness in his posts.
Rask feels really hyped for this game despite claiming light disappointment about his role. I haven't decided if it's a good look yet.
C4 posted enough for me to notice them, but that's all I can say about their posts with certainty.
Tim not flooding the gates with posts probably should be a villa lean, but it would be a meh meta lean.

Villa leans: Dolby, Borg
Scum potential: Rask, Csargo, HK

I like this post slightly less on re-read. Cap drops from TR to null.

El dislikes this post because "this post doesn't have an organic feel to it."

I agree. El ironically says:

If pzelda flips V, power-lynch Lew

The reason I agreed is because I felt that Zelda's post was a bit too scummy as that first post. It's organized and prepared and feels VERY try hard, especially as a first post. Almost every post following does NOT have the same tone as this post I feel. There is an overt style here that's dropped. In part I think because it did come off overly constructed particularly so early in the day. For me it just feels wrong. Also note the very early soft meta town lean on Tim. I already was suspect of Tim here so I was curious and questioned it. We'll come back to zelda's Tim analysis on Day 2 in another post.

I didn't say so before because zelda was my neighbor and wanted to see how it played out in our neighbor thread. Unfortunately after that I only got one response from him for the rest of Day 1 in our QT. Which I found strange given:

Ok, It looks like the thread is dead right now. I'll be back in the evening and as I have a lot of work to do overnight, I probably will be here a lot.

So I expected more Day 1 from Zelda, but it was sparse.

I kind of like this from Rask, because HK calling himself lazy indeed is wolfy. Let's wait and see.

Also, despite being fairly active and calling people towns, I can't find any reason to tr C4.

Winston and Gnome feel alright, maybe slightly mason-ish.

This is okay? a bit vague, but the thing I note is the Winston and Gnome thing which was part of the only reply I got from zel in the QT, thinking about multiple neighbor pairs. And then Day 2 zel goes after them a bit

Gnome/Winston both feel like possible anti-towns. From their early interaction, I got a feeling that they might have a private chat together.

He's more focused on Winston then Gnome though.

Back to Day 1:

Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.

Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.

lord have mercy this post is bad
Vote: pzelda

HK does Day 2 make up for this entirely? Does Tim being scum make zelda seem less scummy?

Remember that this is in response to me comment:

Has your take changed since that comment?

My issue is that this post comes well after I make a post in the QT about how I'm not sold on Tim, specifically I was thinking about how zelda gave him a meta town lean in his first post. Then this post comes after and sort of backpedals on that. This coupled with not hearing from Zelda for the rest of the day in the QT makes me think he was repositioning publicly based on what I said in the QT.

This:

Vote: pzelda

You look perfectly happy with this dead thread, despite being around and having actual thoughts. All the thoughts you do have just look like progress blunting.

could be why C4 was killed. I agree with him about zelda seeming to have a lack of urgency.

I really wanted to vote for Zelda end of Day 1, but if I did that I would tip my suspicions, Zel would have a logical recourse to talk about us being neighbors and I would lose my ability. So I let it ride to see what would happen Day 2.

[Lewwyn]

So when I look at Zelda's day 2 I'm torn. Some of it rings pretty good feels pretty real and I can't tell if I'm paranoid or not.

I'm standing with my initial read there. Pzelda has a history of being kinda lackadasical on day one and getting caught woofin' before he settles in. The way his first post went by without stirring an immediate alarm sort of seems like town Pzelda. Not a "wait for LYLO and look again" read by any stretch but I think there are better places to go today.

Raskol needs to show up here.

Dolby is looking worse every time I look.

I'd run either of them out ahead of Pzelda.

Yeah, Csargo, this is kind of a good look for Dolby.

This post is ironic to me because its a post Tim is making about where he stands on Zelda in response to be directly asked about it. Here Zelda says it looks good for Dolby, but this post actually looks bad for Zelda because Tim is waffling slight town lean on Zelda and then pushing other people ahead of him.

-A bunch of posts on Panda and Panda Tim interaction, but actually Panda barely posts Day 1 so the fact that a good portion of his interactions are with Tim actually make me less sus of Panda. I think its more likely they are not scum then.

-Fights with El suspects panda gnome and Vro which are similar to my EOD 1 reads in the QT. This is where I'm wondering if my Day 1 bias and the QT bias is effecting my reads. I honestly can't tell.

The fact that he keeps his vote on Vro for the rest of the day despite also suspecting Gnome at the beginning of the day, but not really commenting on the rest of the day makes me suspect. Zelda does a beginning of Day 2 blitz, but then is not really active in the rest of the day similar to Day 1. I am not sold on Vro as scum, and after my interaction with Gnome I was curious if he'd post anything or see my point on Gnome.

[Lewwyn]

All of this is to say I believe that we should have discussions on Zelda, Vro, Ibn, in particular today and then lynch Gnome.

[hollowkatt]

All of this is to say I believe that we should have discussions on Zelda, Vro, Ibn, in particular today and then lynch Gnome.

Yeah, I think that makes sense.

[Csargo]

I'd agree with hk, ignoring zelda's D1 and just looking at D2 the analysis he was doing was good re:Dolby,Vro, etc.

Zelda's D1's are usually formulaic and that often causes problems.

[hollowkatt]

lord have mercy this post is bad

Has your take changed since that comment?

Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.

Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.

Vote: pzelda

HK does Day 2 make up for this entirely? Does Tim being scum make zelda seem less scummy?

Remember that this is in response to me comment:


My issue is that this post comes well after I make a post in the QT about how I'm not sold on Tim, specifically I was thinking about how zelda gave him a meta town lean in his first post. Then this post comes after and sort of backpedals on that. This coupled with not hearing from Zelda for the rest of the day in the QT makes me think he was repositioning publicly based on what I said in the QT.
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No, his D2 doesn't make up for how bad that post was. Especially with Tim flipping wolf.