Rampage Out of Space

[Csargo]

I dont get why Borg is locktown for interactions with Tims and Dolby could be w/w with Tims. Someone explain it to me.

[Dolby]

I dont get why Borg is locktown for interactions with Tims and Dolby could be w/w with Tims. Someone explain it to me.

Borg is a paragon of towniness

I think his interactions with Tims are slightly not w/w, but I think that this is just town him. Also I liked his weirdness at SoD and it kinda reminded me of when he protected you over me N1 in mario maf 1

[Garden Gnome]

I dont get why Borg is locktown for interactions with Tims and Dolby could be w/w with Tims. Someone explain it to me.

How do you see Borg? I'm seeing him more nullish but don't have much of an impression where he's concerned.

[Csargo]

Borg is a paragon of towniness

I think his interactions with Tims are slightly not w/w, but I think that this is just town him. Also I liked his weirdness at SoD and it kinda reminded me of when he protected you over me N1 in mario maf 1

They don't seem the same to me. What about the Tims interactions makes you think that way?

[hollowkatt]

Once I get chopped, I'm going to flip town. After my flip, who do you intend to scum read? And why?

panda/nook are right up there for who I'm going to scum read. Nook because I can't remember a single townie thing he's done thus far, and Panda b/c he's sheeping not acting independently.

[Csargo]

How do you see Borg? I'm seeing him more nullish but don't have much of an impression where he's concerned.

My thoughts D1 were this is standard Borg, so I was tling him, but now I'm not sure.

[Csargo]

Does Borg always fall off activity wise after D1?

[Garden Gnome]

My thoughts D1 were this is standard Borg, so I was tling him, but now I'm not sure.

Is it because of Csargo's observation that Borg has magically disappeared?

[Laurentus]

dismissing out of hand the possibility of a bus then?

Can't sleep so I might as well check in.

Nah, but I really, highly doubt the Wolves place their fate in Panda's hands when they can do Dolby instead. The odds of Dolby actually getting lynched are minuscule, anyway, I think that if we're seeing a Dolby/Panda team, this is distancing that they don't expect to pick up as a serious wagon. Like, there's just already so much shade being thrown at Panda that I can't imagine Dolby agreeing to the hail mary of letting Panda carry this thing to the end alone.

I think Dolby bussing Panda is way more likely, but still not likely. If scum loses another player, they're down to 1, and this game becomes damn near impossible. Very few wolves bus here.

[hollowkatt]

Does Borg always fall off activity wise after D1?

generally the other way around in my experience

[BorgPicard]

Is it because of Csargo's observation that Borg has magically disappeared?

No it is due to something unrelated. That roleblock really threw me for a loop, but tomorrow I have a good feeling I will be able to get a wolf. For today, filled with uncertainty, I will go and
vote: cute panda

[Garden Gnome]

No it is due to something unrelated. That roleblock really threw me for a loop, but tomorrow I have a good feeling I will be able to get a wolf. For today, filled with uncertainty, I will go and
vote: cute panda

I'll be looking forward to your catching a wolf!

[hollowkatt]

Can't sleep so I might as well check in.

Nah, but I really, highly doubt the Wolves place their fate in Panda's hands when they can do Dolby instead. The odds of Dolby actually getting lynched are minuscule, anyway, I think that if we're seeing a Dolby/Panda team, this is distancing that they don't expect to pick up as a serious wagon. Like, there's just already so much shade being thrown at Panda that I can't imagine Dolby agreeing to the hail mary of letting Panda carry this thing to the end alone.

I think Dolby bussing Panda is way more likely, but still not likely. If scum loses another player, they're down to 1, and this game becomes damn near impossible. Very few wolves bus here.

I think I agree with this. If Panda is a wolf there's no way he buses his partner Dolby here. I'm not handing out any kind of credit for a pelt with that kind of play. If Panda were like super gung-ho and dumpstered Dolby with a case then sure, have some credit. But a sheep play nah, no credit there.

I think Dolby could easily go over today. I think someone is going to get Gnome cold feet and shift to Dolby, and if Dolby does flip and flips wolf that person might just be the partner if it comes with a case.
If dolby fliips town I'd say look for late wagon joiners for the wolves. Doubt they sit on a townie all day long just b/c they need to get chops and need to stay "under the radar" doing it.

Still think Panda is more likely wolf than Dolby is.
Appreciate your thoughts, get some sleep

[Laurentus]

Laurentus, do you think that this is consistent with town Panda?

You mean the observations of your deep dive of him, or do you mean his sheeping? Regardless, the answer to both is yes. He has sheeped other people when he fell behind and made a few mistakes in reading the game when catching back up again, and like I said, I've only seen him town, so it's consistent with the meta I have of him. Of course, doesn't mean he won't do it as scum.

As for your general observations, yeah, this is so much his existing town meta. He has a mind of his own and really couldn't care less if the person rubbing him wrong is Town-read by everyone and their mother.

[Dolby]

They don't seem the same to me. What about the Tims interactions makes you think that way?

I think that if Argon chooses to pretend to fake invest his partner he sticks with one alignment for them. Everything from Tims was fakeable imo, but tbh I also think that LA has no qualms voting for me lol.

and yes, he does fall off activity wise normally.

Comparison re:this game and mario maf, there's obv differences between the games as LA had info there and doesn't here, but the way that he was going about with the roleblocker stuff kinda pinged me towards how he was addressing why I was dead since he 3p read me then. Something unexpected but public.

and the cop check biz seemed town him

[Dolby]

generally the other way around in my experience

I disagree

his posts tends to be more valuable and concrete, but less forthcoming in the later game

I don't think I can remember a day after day 1 when he made more than 20 posts expect maybe d2 of mario maf 1

[Dolby]

You mean the observations of your deep dive of him, or do you mean his sheeping? Regardless, the answer to both is yes. He has sheeped other people when he fell behind and made a few mistakes in reading the game when catching back up again, and like I said, I've only seen him town, so it's consistent with the meta I have of him. Of course, doesn't mean he won't do it as scum.

As for your general observations, yeah, this is so much his existing town meta. He has a mind of his own and really couldn't care less if the person rubbing him wrong is Town-read by everyone and their mother.

Do you think that the part that I described as "just asking questions" where I felt like he was trying to get someone else to pick up the "LA is a fake mafia cop" thing is typical of him. Specifically the just asking questions part. That's probably what concerns me the most out of his whole ISO

[hollowkatt]

I disagree

his posts tends to be more valuable and concrete, but less forthcoming in the later game

I don't think I can remember a day after day 1 when he made more than 20 posts expect maybe d2 of mario maf 1

Yeah ok that's fair. His quantity tends to diminish his quality gets better

[Laurentus]

Do you think that the part that I described as "just asking questions" where I felt like he was trying to get someone else to pick up the "LA is a fake mafia cop" thing is typical of him. Specifically the just asking questions part. That's probably what concerns me the most out of his whole ISO

Hmm, that part of his meta has never really registered for me. Tell you what, I can link all the games I have of him. Might not be very useful especially under the time constraints, but could be useful if your reading material gets stale and he's still alive come the night phase.

[Laurentus]

https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=7115.0

https://wintreath.com/forums/index.php?topic=7019.0

And then there's Mario 2, which you also played in and can find easily, Dolby.

[Laurentus]

I'm going to attempt sleep again.

[Csargo]

I think that if Argon chooses to pretend to fake invest his partner he sticks with one alignment for them. Everything from Tims was fakeable imo, but tbh I also think that LA has no qualms voting for me lol.

and yes, he does fall off activity wise normally.

Comparison re:this game and mario maf, there's obv differences between the games as LA had info there and doesn't here, but the way that he was going about with the roleblocker stuff kinda pinged me towards how he was addressing why I was dead since he 3p read me then. Something unexpected but public.

and the cop check biz seemed town him

That's one of the reasons it does not seem w/w to me, but then it just looks like an attempt to buddy up with you.

[Csargo]

Does anyone know what Nanook is doing? Is this typical?

[pzelda]

Catching up. I'm fairly busy finishing a project and I might not be back for eod.

[Garden Gnome]

Does anyone know what Nanook is doing? Is this typical?

where is nook? Has he posted today?

[pzelda]

I believe that you believe this yeah

I think there are also mechanical reasons for him to be town. I misunderstood my role slightly, but now it looks that Lewwyn's cooperation is essential for me to cop properly.

[Montmorency]

HOST TALLY 3-3

Gnome (5): Zelda, Ibn, Dolby, Lewwyn, Winston
Dolby (3): Laurentus, Nanook, Panda
Panda (3): Hollow, Gnome, Borg

Not Voting (2): Csargo, Vro


Movement

[Hollow] Borg >> Gnome >> Panda
[Zelda] Vroendal >> Gnome
[Gnome] Hollow >> Lewwyn >> Panda

[Csargo]

Vote:Nanook

[hollowkatt]

Vote:Nanook

You think Gnome/Dolby/Panda are all town?

[pzelda]

Oh, okay. Interesting. Do you think that Tim and CutePanda are teamed? Two scum chops in a row would be sweet.

vote: CutePanda

It would be sweet if I flip wolf.

I will like to sheep Laurentus for this day , I am a bit lost .

vote:Dolby

At least one anti-town between the two tbh.

No, it's literally just because of his interaction with Tim, which looks to me like it could be scum partners distancing. Dolby is a fantastic player, so there's not going to be anything obvious if he did rand scum.

Also, Dolby made me realize one thing about Nanook. He has no townreads.

Unvote: Garden Gnome
Vote: Nanook

I might switch back if a worse wagon's in the lead.