Rampage Out of Space

[Winston Hughes]

Well I guess we will know for sure tonight, if we don't eject the sk. I see the only options are added kill from Tim, or added kill from roleblock

It might just be a power the sk started with, but my money's on it being a result of eating Tim.

[hollowkatt]

I'm scared of you blatantly following me and agreeing with my posts. Where's the paranoia HK webbing his own theories and reads?

recovering from his second covid shot lol
I get your paranoia, but like dude, you're being obvs town and have been for a few days now.

[hollowkatt]

HK is pretty obvious SK, just from the way he’s treated today IMO. This is the posting of a guy trying to float under the radar. LA’s thoughts on the third kill source match with mine, and I personally think that it’s possible that SK might have got a extra kill compensation for the N2 event. This is heavily influenced by the flavor but I’m seriously at that point. Also, Panda and Nanook are the two names that I think that HK kills if he has two kills and wants to hit exactly one mafia given his twilight posting

LA is a paragon of towniness

Winston town foe obvious reasons

Pzelda town

vote: dolby
lol no

[Winston Hughes]

For reference, BP's edited highlights:

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Hollowkat confirmed mafia. Why else would he vote for the town cop. Tim can confirm to you in your mafia chat that he is vanilla town and that my n0 peek is 100% legit.

I have set myself a meta so that even now that I am a cop mafia can't tell if I am lying or not. The only way they can tell is if I green check one of them and then I probably will be ignored. I have played with most of the people here so I feel like I can pull this off without disrupting town. Once I get a red check I will share it since getting one of the mafia is probably as good as it will get. Then all my green checks will be cleared when the mafia silences me.

I feel like with Tim that if he survived n1 and n2 then we should be worried about them, but I don't think that will be the case.

I don't like the Dolby part. They are obviously town and any attmpys to say otherwise will lead to disapproving stares.

Vote: Winston
For not answering the simple question.

Mainly because he is mafia.

When you started attacking Dolby.

Well I know one of the 4 is a wolf, so it gives me little confidence on the rest of them.

vote: Rask
All glory to the eternal leader.

Okay then Tim your date is sealed.

I am going to be consistent with my beliefs and
vote: Nanook
The push on Dolby was very sus, and I think there was another wolf among the people on the wagon.

I was only serious about the Tim part. I knew HK would not believe my role cop claim, and the jab at them, like at c4, was in jest. I was trying to hint that Tim was mad without outright hardclaiming cop, mainly since then Tim would know I was not lying about the red check.

No it is due to something unrelated. That roleblock really threw me for a loop, but tomorrow I have a good feeling I will be able to get a wolf. For today, filled with uncertainty, I will go and
vote: cute panda

Maybe the werewolf got two kills cause of the weird roleblock, but the two kills make sense only as someone scum hunting. Both were people that I, and I believe others, were going to push very hard. While I am concerned about the double kill, I am grateful for their removal. I think that after we get another mafia down we might want to start our sk hunt in earnest.

I will park on vroendal for now. I was hoping my night action would find me a wolf, but sadly my top suspect Nanook was brutally murdered and also town. Of everyone else here, I have some suspicion about Sk being Dolby or HK, but I am running a blank on who could be mafia.

[Winston Hughes]

Where you at on BP, hk?

[Winston Hughes]

Ibn-Khaldun in full:

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I have been keeping my eye on the thread.
Don't know who to vote yet.

Don't think Rask is mafia.
Csargo could be one?

Vote: Borg


Cause I like to see the tie mechanic..

Claiming a role on D1 is not good for the town.

If he is a regular townie and he claims a role like that he might clear mafia from suspicion as the game progresses. Bad for the town.
If he actually is a Cop like he claimed he just made himself a target for the mafia. Bad for the Town.
If he is mafia claiming to be a Cop and the town actually believes him then he could clear another mafia. Bad for the Town again.

I haven't played mafia with him before unlike some of you so perhaps this is what he does usually in games...

So, I checked the Tally from the last day..
I think the bandwagon on Rask was all townies. If the mafia was smart they'll just let it happen and vote for someone else so they wouldn't be connected to the Rask lynching.

This is the tally from D1. Btw, it seems Monty didn't remove Tims vote on Dolby after he had voted for Borg. I got confused for a second seeing Tim voting twice..


I think the other mafia could be one of these: Vroendal, Nanook, El-A or Winston

Vote: Vroendal

Unfortunatelly I don't have the "he played wolf in the last game this way so he must be wolf in this game as well" meta that a lot of you use. I haven't played mafia for almost 7 years and the only person I have played with is Csargo I think but even then it was long time ago.

Why Vroendal? Cause if he ends up being mafia then Winston is more likely a townie. Also, cause Tim voted Borg I like to believe he is not mafia either.

You maybe right. I recognized your name but wasn't sure if we actually played mafia together or it was from somewhere else.

Why were you quoting your own post here?!

I would add Vro there instead of Csargo but if you are convinced that he is town then so be it..

Vote: Garden Gnome

So I checked the tallys from previous days..

Everybody who have voted Dolby have been killed or voted off.
On day 1 El-A and Nanook voted for him and next day El-A gets pushed and voted off.
On day 2 Nanook and Gnome vote for him and there is a push against Gnome on next day.
Day 3 and Nanook, Panda and Laurentus vote for him.
Night 3 and Panda and Nanook end up dead.
Perhaps I'm reading too much into it but I think Dolby should be voted off..

Vote: Dolby

I think one of them was. Perhaps Panda but Nanook was killed by 3p?

And like pzelda said

Not sure.. I would go for Vro.

We need to get mafia today.

[Winston Hughes]

The SK's choice to hit two low posters is probably significant, but as yet I'm not sure why.

[Winston Hughes]

It was almost certainly scum-hunting, though.

[hollowkatt]

Where you at on BP, hk?

gth town

[Winston Hughes]

gth town

gth?

[hollowkatt]

The SK's choice to hit two low posters is probably significant, but as yet I'm not sure why.

the obvs answer is that the active players aren't suspecting the SK of being the SK (or a wolf) whereas the low posters were, but that's also the path of wifom and ruin so eh?
I'm not sure finding the SK is super important as of yet, I'd rather find and chop wolves.

[hollowkatt]

gth?

Gun
To
Head

[Ibn-Khaldun]

So chucking out HK as I think probable SK

My inclination would be to say the two maf are IK and Csargo

I’ll look at posts that weren’t D3/D4 in the morning. Both of these are default reads but they’re all I really have left

Hard to reconcile that when IK has that “not Rask, maybe Csargo” post on D1

Others voted for Rask because "he played like this in some other game and was mafia" meta but I didn't see anything wrong with his posts. Also, it was D1 after all.

[Winston Hughes]

the obvs answer is that the active players aren't suspecting the SK of being the SK (or a wolf) whereas the low posters were, but that's also the path of wifom and ruin so eh?
I'm not sure finding the SK is super important as of yet, I'd rather find and chop wolves.

Need to try and see the whole picture.

What scum and sk think of each other could be the key to catching both.

[Winston Hughes]

Gun
To
Head

What is the basis for this judgement?

[Winston Hughes]

The sk wants to chop town and kill scum.

Scum want to chop the sk.

[Winston Hughes]

So I checked the tallys from previous days..

Everybody who have voted Dolby have been killed or voted off.
On day 1 El-A and Nanook voted for him and next day El-A gets pushed and voted off.
On day 2 Nanook and Gnome vote for him and there is a push against Gnome on next day.
Day 3 and Nanook, Panda and Laurentus vote for him.
Night 3 and Panda and Nanook end up dead.
Perhaps I'm reading too much into it but I think Dolby should be voted off..

Vote: Dolby

IK's case on Dolby seems:

i) believable, in that there is a coherent villain-hunting thought process going on

ii) plausible, in that it presents evidence that does look bad for Dolby

[Winston Hughes]

Ibn hasn't ended any day so far with a single vote against him.

[Winston Hughes]

Has anyone voted ibn at all?

[Winston Hughes]

IK is org OG.

I do remember playing with him.

Need to find the game.

[Winston Hughes]

Threads: 1,166

This might take a while...

[hollowkatt]

Need to try and see the whole picture.

What scum and sk think of each other could be the key to catching both.

Sure, that makes sense. Except that we have one dead scum, no dead SK, and a shitload of dead townies. So trying to determine what wolves think of the SK and vice versa is functionally impossible. As soon as we hit another wolf it becomes a lot clearer I think.

I'm currently voting Dolby b/c of how strongly he thinks I'm SK b/c I struggle mightily to understand how he gets to that read

[hollowkatt]

What is the basis for this judgement?

he's more active than the last time I saw him wolfing, he's actually participating in discussions and providing reads in his own LA way

[hollowkatt]

The sk wants to chop town and kill scum.

Scum want to chop the sk.

Scum only want to chop the SK if they think the SK is wolf reading them. Otherwise scum want the SK to keep shooting townies, especially townies they can't get chopped b/c it makes their lives easier.
While the SK is killing townies the SK is wolf siding, yeah?

[hollowkatt]

Has anyone voted ibn at all?

I don't even remember his posts

[Winston Hughes]

trying to determine what wolves think of the SK and vice versa is functionally impossible

In the abstract, of course.

Reading players, though, the fact that each team is hunting - but for slightly different things - is the one thing that fundamentally differentiates them.

[Winston Hughes]

Scum want to chop the sk because the sk is hunting them.

[Winston Hughes]

I'm currently voting Dolby b/c of how strongly he thinks I'm SK b/c I struggle mightily to understand how he gets to that read

do you think dolby more likely scum than sk?

[hollowkatt]

Scum want to chop the sk because the sk is hunting them.

I disagree with your supposition. Scum want to chop the SK if and only if the SK appears to be on to them. Up till that point scum want the SK to keep killing townies b/c it makes scums lives easier.

[hollowkatt]

do you think dolby more likely scum than sk?

I haven't thought about who the SK is, so yeah, I think dolby is more likely scum than SK