Rampage Out of Space

[Timsup2nothin]

Dunno wtf Tim is doing in this game tho. I want to town read him for a couple posts, including his reads list even though he says it's inaccurate and has too many wolves.

Okay this is the only honest thing that has been said about me this game so far. So far I joked about collecting three heads and circling back for Argon. That is a pretty typical joke for me. The Blues Brothers not quite quote about killing Csargo was also I thought pretty obviously mostly a joke.

The reads list, day one, even before everyone has posted? Never done that before EVER. Had MANY day one knock down dragout tilts over refusing to give reads, both as town or wolf. A huge warning sign on Raskol is that he should be deep into WTF is Tim up to now? and he seems totally cool about it.

Argon is flat lying and I'm not sure what to make of that. I am town, but there is no way a n0 cop check on me comes back anything like miller so that part at the very least he made up out of thin air.

Yea, I can, and often will, flood the thread as wolf or town. I am not, and I am not going to be. This is less typical for me, but I have also done this as wolf or town.

Gun to head right now I probably would vote Raskol, but will not actually be voting until either everyone has voted or we are reasonably approaching EoD, whichever comes first.

[Lewwyn]

So WTF are you up to Tim?

[Timsup2nothin]

So WTF are you up to Tim?

Just playin' some Mafia. I have a very strong anti-meta tilt, so every game I at least play a different style than my last game, and as often as I have the juice I play in some style I have never tried. I guess it is the old school forum software or maybe the nostalgia of being back on TheOrg but I feel like I'm up for a challenge.

For all my scoffing at them I have friends who are committed believers that day one reads made of tiny shadows of nuance and staff really work, so instead of my usual "just get through day one and work off the flips because flips are FACTS" stance I am joining them. Reading posts over and over looking for little cues and such.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Vote: Borg


Cause I like to see the tie mechanic..

[Lewwyn]

Vote: Borg


Cause I like to see the tie mechanic..

Do you suspect Borg? If the votes swing another way are you just going to follow an opposing bandwagon? I feel like this is a bad reason 12 hours out.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Do you suspect Borg? If the votes swing another way are you just going to follow an opposing bandwagon? I feel like this is a bad reason 12 hours out.

Claiming a role on D1 is not good for the town.

If he is a regular townie and he claims a role like that he might clear mafia from suspicion as the game progresses. Bad for the town.
If he actually is a Cop like he claimed he just made himself a target for the mafia. Bad for the Town.
If he is mafia claiming to be a Cop and the town actually believes him then he could clear another mafia. Bad for the Town again.

I haven't played mafia with him before unlike some of you so perhaps this is what he does usually in games...

[Lewwyn]

Claiming a role on D1 is not good for the town.

If he is a regular townie and he claims a role like that he might clear mafia from suspicion as the game progresses. Bad for the town.
If he actually is a Cop like he claimed he just made himself a target for the mafia. Bad for the Town.
If he is mafia claiming to be a Cop and the town actually believes him then he could clear another mafia. Bad for the Town again.

I haven't played mafia with him before unlike some of you so perhaps this is what he does usually in games...

Better reasons.
Though one could argue that point 2 is actually a motivator not to vote to lynch him. Let the mafia adjudicate.

[BorgPicard]

Okay this is the only honest thing that has been said about me this game so far. So far I joked about collecting three heads and circling back for Argon. That is a pretty typical joke for me. The Blues Brothers not quite quote about killing Csargo was also I thought pretty obviously mostly a joke.

The reads list, day one, even before everyone has posted? Never done that before EVER. Had MANY day one knock down dragout tilts over refusing to give reads, both as town or wolf. A huge warning sign on Raskol is that he should be deep into WTF is Tim up to now? and he seems totally cool about it.

Argon is flat lying and I'm not sure what to make of that. I am town, but there is no way a n0 cop check on me comes back anything like miller so that part at the very least he made up out of thin air.

Yea, I can, and often will, flood the thread as wolf or town. I am not, and I am not going to be. This is less typical for me, but I have also done this as wolf or town.

Gun to head right now I probably would vote Raskol, but will not actually be voting until either everyone has voted or we are reasonably approaching EoD, whichever comes first.

I was lying about being a "role" cop. That would just be crazy, but an even night alignment cop? Maybe that is what I am.

[BorgPicard]

Better reasons.
Though one could argue that point 2 is actually a motivator not to vote to lynch him. Let the mafia adjudicate.

I have set myself a meta so that even now that I am a cop mafia can't tell if I am lying or not. The only way they can tell is if I green check one of them and then I probably will be ignored. I have played with most of the people here so I feel like I can pull this off without disrupting town. Once I get a red check I will share it since getting one of the mafia is probably as good as it will get. Then all my green checks will be cleared when the mafia silences me.

[Garden Gnome]

I have set myself a meta so that even now that I am a cop mafia can't tell if I am lying or not. The only way they can tell is if I green check one of them and then I probably will be ignored. I have played with most of the people here so I feel like I can pull this off without disrupting town. Once I get a red check I will share it since getting one of the mafia is probably as good as it will get. Then all my green checks will be cleared when the mafia silences me.

Do you think that mafia would actually ignore you? Don't you think that you're not being NKed after getting so many green checks makes you look like scum? Your post comes across as scummy.

[pzelda]

What's wrong with c4? Do you have a specific problem with how they're posting?

For D1 I think they're a solid tl so far for me.

Not a specific problem. They just feel too eager to call people towns and I don't exactly see the meta townread of hk as good (I hope that answers your question c4).

[pzelda]

how is calling myself lazy wolfy? I definitely haven't been playing with any kind of alacrity or presence. I've been responding to things I think are interesting or neat, and ignoring things I don't particularly care about.

C4 is an easy town read to toss off, he's active, solving some people, and generally posting with the flow of things. None of which are townie on their own, but taken as a whole they're indicative of being more townie than not.
If he's a wolf he eventually needs to wolf read town, yeah? When that happens we'll be able to start solving him IF we need to.

Because I don't remember you being lazy as town ever. That's a stupid meta read, tho. In general excusing your lack of activity by laziness feels self-aware and potentially wolfy too.

[Lewwyn]

Because I don't remember you being lazy as town ever. That's a stupid meta read, tho. In general excusing your lack of activity by laziness feels self-aware and potentially wolfy too.

Has your take changed since that comment?

[Lewwyn]

Do you think that mafia would actually ignore you? Don't you think that you're not being NKed after getting so many green checks makes you look like scum? Your post comes across as scummy.

I assume your second question cuts to the heart of whether Borg would become a distraction and disruption for town...

Would you vote for Borg or not D1?

[hollowkatt]

could you lay out why? i don't see anything wrong with their posts, other than that weird one, which is par for the course for la

cause I think he's lying

[pzelda]

Has your take changed since that comment?

Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.

Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.

[BorgPicard]

Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.

Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.

I feel like with Tim that if he survived n1 and n2 then we should be worried about them, but I don't think that will be the case.

[Lewwyn]

Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.

Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.

Can't say whether it's old school or not. I'm still finding footing myself amid a group I'm mostly unfamiliar with.

I'm not sold on Tim and I do think his reply to what he's up to isn't 100% believable. It's devoid of connection to the game itself and rather a post about his own style. Arguments about that are not as productive as actual reads and substantial commenting. But he did answer my question! I guess Timsup2nothin!? (Honestly this whole day has been Tim trying to get us to say "updog")

[pzelda]

All that said, I think I still like HK more than Rask and C4. Town leans on C4 befuddle me in particular. The guy's enforcing them and they feel like a trap to me. Either C4 is scum or a wolf tmi-ed him by giving him a free pass.

[Lewwyn]

Not a fan of a single hit and run post by Vote: Panda interested to hear more though.

We haven't heard from a couple others either...

[hollowkatt]

Tbh, the whole take is vaguely in null territory. A great comment or action from HK would make it minor a nuisance. Tbh, talking about Largon doing the same thing every game isn't moving game forward and I find it slightly off that HK uses it to push Borg. Also, his meta read on Tim - It's good but it's also deliberately keeping Tim in nulls.
But again, I don't think any of this is substantial enough to call HK scum. The Tim read actually got me slightly paranoid about Tim, who immediately posted about changing his style every game - and that's not a post, which makes man feel safer.

Overall, this feels like an old school d1 with surface interactions and lack of substantial reads.

lord have mercy this post is bad
Vote: pzelda

[Timsup2nothin]

Do you think that mafia would actually ignore you? Don't you think that you're not being NKed after getting so many green checks makes you look like scum? Your post comes across as scummy.

The mafia would most likely include at least one person who has played with Argon. If he is town he is playing along his standard meta and mafia who have played with him may well be hesitant about getting baited into killing a vanilla townie that seems like a potential mischop. I have seen it go both ways.

[Garden Gnome]

I assume your second question cuts to the heart of whether Borg would become a distraction and disruption for town...

Would you vote for Borg or not D1?

Maybe, but I'd rather wait until D2.

[Timsup2nothin]

I feel like with Tim that if he survived n1 and n2 then we should be worried about them, but I don't think that will be the case.

Well, yeah, you marking me as a cop green check probably did not improve my survival odds.

[CutePanda]

Tim , LA , Laurentus, Vro and above all HK can confirm that J have obvious reasons for single hit and run. I have school and I got to study as well at home , so you won't see much of me on D1 . My activity rises as the game goes forward, and I can gurantee that I will be of some use later on.

[Timsup2nothin]

Can't say whether it's old school or not. I'm still finding footing myself amid a group I'm mostly unfamiliar with.

I'm not sold on Tim and I do think his reply to what he's up to isn't 100% believable. It's devoid of connection to the game itself and rather a post about his own style. Arguments about that are not as productive as actual reads and substantial commenting. But he did answer my question! I guess Timsup2nothin!? (Honestly this whole day has been Tim trying to get us to say "updog")

I am resisting an OMGUS reaction here.

You ask what I'm up to, I tell you.

Now you complain about how that wasn't as productive as actual reads...to the only person in the game that has given a comprehensive reads list. I'm trying out this "be a cooperative townie" thing instead of my more comfortable "hard nose FPSing pot stirring solo wolf hunter" style, and apparently you aren't seeing it. Is there really something missing on my part, are you just really quick to tunnel, or are you just a wolf?

[Timsup2nothin]

Not a fan of a single hit and run post by Vote: Panda interested to hear more though.

We haven't heard from a couple others either...

Would you mind giving us a comprehensive list of your takes on the players so far? It's starting to feel like you are just throwing suss in every direction to get a feel for what might stick rather than doing any real solving. Not saying that's a wolf indication since I am not familiar with you and I have definitely played that wild spear wolf hunter type as town myself, but set my mind at ease here please.

[BorgPicard]

Well, yeah, you marking me as a cop green check probably did not improve my survival odds.

If they attack you now they all but confirm my fake green check on you. That is why I think they will wait. Also you seem like a big doc target so think it will go on someone else as a doc dodge.

[CutePanda]

hk is town

What's your policy here , make a post saying "This guy is town" after he places some read sort of stuff? Posting D1 reads are wolfy , while I questioned zelda's alignment , I actually contradicted my words over the fact that D1 reads are wolfish.
How did the contradiction escape your eyes?

[CutePanda]

Tim can certainly confirm , can he not ?