Rampage Out of Space

[Laurentus]

How much time until EoD, and what is the vote count right now?

[Winston Hughes]

Doesn't get any better with calling IK town for, afaics, nothing at all.

[Laurentus]

Hmm, reading back, that is true, you didn't specifically use the lack of team equity as a reason for town-leaning HK, but the way you phrased it with the context of me and El voting for him really strongly gives the impression that their lack of team equity makes you hesitant to vote for HK, and it would only do that if you think lack of team equity is indicative of a Town!HK.

No, actually, it doesn't necessarily mean that you were even considering voting for HK, it could also mean you just think mine and El's votes were potentially wrong based on the lack of team equity, but then the point still stands. This is an inconsistency I really hope you can clear up.

[Laurentus]

Not a great look for El hitting the thread with reads on pzelda and Tim as town, where the former looked scummy to me and the latter was actually scum.

Most scum teams would never read so many of their buds as Town, though.

[Winston Hughes]

Oh look, another town. I don't know what you were talking about Tim, they're easy enough to find.

While I don't disagree with any of your finds so far the only one I absolutely hard agree on was me. But yeah, there are some. There's just too many wolves though. :(

[Winston Hughes]

Most scum teams would never read so many of their buds as Town, though.

So many?

I thought I was just talking about one.

What am I missing here?

[Garden Gnome]

I'm in the moment

it's the best place to be. Feels towny.

[Winston Hughes]

Oh, I think I see.

I don't mean they're all El's buddies.

I mean they're all off in some way.

As it stands, I've moved a fair degree on pzelda since yesterday.

[Winston Hughes]

it's the best place to be. Feels towny.

It is the best place to be. But it's also much easier for scum in a game with an sk than it would be in a straight town/maf fight.

[Ibn-Khaldun]

No, actually, it doesn't necessarily mean that you were even considering voting for HK, it could also mean you just think mine and El's votes were potentially wrong based on the lack of team equity, but then the point still stands. This is an inconsistency I really hope you can clear up.

Why were you quoting your own post here?!

[Laurentus]

Why were you quoting your own post here?!

It's in response to an earlier post where I was addressing Csargo on his assertion that HK is Town.

[Laurentus]

Oh, I think I see.

I don't mean they're all El's buddies.

I mean they're all off in some way.

As it stands, I've moved a fair degree on pzelda since yesterday.

Okay, I think I see. What was his reasoning for TRing pzelda, and why was it bad?

[Laurentus]

Oh, I think I see.

I don't mean they're all El's buddies.

I mean they're all off in some way.

As it stands, I've moved a fair degree on pzelda since yesterday.

Also, was the rationale itself off for TRing Tim, or TRing Tim at all, because of behaviour?

[Winston Hughes]

One thing that stands out is the difference between how good El's entrance felt at the time, and how bad it feels now I know Tim is scum.

I'm still kinda wary of chopping here tonight, because El does consistently generate readable content from other players (which is, I suspect, why that entrance felt good at the time), and it's not exactly a slam-dunk case.

[Garden Gnome]

Vro and Winston are town because I read a couple of posts involving Tim in which I strongly got the impression he was not paired with either of them.

Gnome gets a pass cos I feel mean about turning her into a snake in our last game together, plus I'll have a better handle on her tomorrow.

Sssssssssssounds like a plan!

[Garden Gnome]

But why, tho? I like El right now and don't like you. Also, kinda weird that you'd want me to murder someone for you when you think I'm scum.

Servant scum?

[Winston Hughes]

Okay, I think I see. What was his reasoning for TRing pzelda, and why was it bad?

It's not the reason, so much as the sheer divergence. I thought the post in question looked terrible, whereas El came into the thread treating it like the towniest thing said so far.

Obvs that isn't necessary scummy in itself, but with the other reads being Tim town and ibn town...

[Csargo]

No, actually, it doesn't necessarily mean that you were even considering voting for HK, it could also mean you just think mine and El's votes were potentially wrong based on the lack of team equity, but then the point still stands. This is an inconsistency I really hope you can clear up.

I'm not really sure what you're confused about. The only way I think your right is if hk is a sk, basically.

[Laurentus]

It's not the reason, so much as the sheer divergence. I thought the post in question looked terrible, whereas El came into the thread treating it like the towniest thing said so far.

Obvs that isn't necessary scummy in itself, but with the other reads being Tim town and ibn town...

I suppose a great deal will only make sense to me when I fully catch up on the game.

[Winston Hughes]

hk could totally be sk

but he's the last player i'd chop today

i'd literally rather chop visor

[Winston Hughes]

I suppose a great deal will only make sense to me when I fully catch up on the game.

Yeah, as hilarious as Derpgate was, I was kinda disappointed when you got derailed there.

[Laurentus]

I'm not really sure what you're confused about. The only way I think your right is if hk is a sk, basically.

I'm confused by your assertion that you weren't TRing HK based on the lack of team equity, when it is clearly logically implied, as I expanded on in all my replies to you, that it was indeed indicative of Town!HK for you.

[Csargo]

and hk's posts at SoD seem kinda sk to me, so it's possible, but not good enough to yeet him imo

[Laurentus]

What is an SK? Serial Killer?

[Csargo]

What is an SK? Serial Killer?

yes

[Garden Gnome]

What is an SK? Serial Killer?

yes.

[Winston Hughes]

With hk, this is one of the times when I say that if I've been played, it's been so well done that I can only take my hat off.

It's like he tailored his whole game to trick my scumdar.

If there wasn't an sk in the game, I'd be totally convinced.

As it is, hard townreading anyone is close to impossible at this point.

[Vroendal]

I'm alive. Am open for questioning.

[Laurentus]

I've never played a game with one of those. I am assuming there's a vig, seeing as Tim done got killed, so I also assume an SK is a common counterpart to a game that has a vig?

How would one spot an SK, and why would HK's posts potentially be indi--

Wait, is an SK necessarily scum-aligned, or is it usually 3P?

[Winston Hughes]

I'm alive. Am open for questioning.

Hey Vroe.

Am I still Mr Scummypants?