Rampage Out of Space

**pzelda** · 04-26-2021, 14:44

Originally Posted by Vroendal

I've lost track of what's going on in the thread to be honest. Lau seems slightly derp-cleared assuming that as a wolf he would read the wolf chat before going into the thread. Dolby's EoD felt super townie to me. I'm scum-reading GG from yesterday, her voting Dolby is noteworthy. Both Dolby and Lau are scum-reading and voting El-A. I was still semi-town-reading him based on his initial entrance and brought him down after reading Dolby's thoughts. Honestly either GG or El-A would be fine with me at this point. Would prefer GG because I'm understanding a bit more as to why she's scummy, but going with my strong player town-leans on a wagon is probably the wisest option for me at this point because I have no idea what happened this phase. I'm choosing not to vote Winston because y'all know what my stance on him is already and it doesn't look like he's any kind of option right now.

Vote - El-A

tbh, this feels like a wolf potentially saving another wolf. Would prefer GG and casting a vote on El is a striking contradiction.

**pzelda** · 04-26-2021, 14:51

One more point. Lewwyn's basically confirmed town for blocking me and outing himself instead of killing me at night or trying to manipulate my 1-shot power.

**pzelda** · 04-26-2021, 14:57

Unfortunately for him I used it n1 to peek Winston and tonight I got result that he's Umenses.

**pzelda** · 04-26-2021, 15:00

Let's round this up and kill Vroe and GG

Vote: Vroendal or Garden Gnome

Also, Csargo's my current lead for the 3p as he's having too much fun this game.

**pzelda** · 04-26-2021, 15:11

Ok, there are more questions than takes in Gnome's iso. First, her interactions with El are minimal. Meta-wise, I think town Garden Gnome would interact with El to get a free townread from him, but let's not reall use this meh reason as an evidence. Second, she townread HK in a scummy way. I don't mind her making a blank stance, but later on she questioned others Why HK over Dolby? and defended HK in a tmi-ish fashion. Third, Her progression on Dolby from asking about Nanook's scumminess to saying that the two ain't w/w to voting and pushing Dolby as a candidate felt weak at best and not based on her conviction.

Vroe trying to save Gnome with their votes makes the two an almost too obvious scum team.

**Laurentus** · 04-26-2021, 15:13

Originally Posted by pzelda

Ok, there are more questions than takes in Gnome's iso. First, her interactions with El are minimal. Meta-wise, I think town Garden Gnome would interact with El to get a free townread from him, but let's not reall use this meh reason as an evidence. Second, she townread HK in a scummy way. I don't mind her making a blank stance, but later on she questioned others Why HK over Dolby? and defended HK in a tmi-ish fashion. Third, Her progression on Dolby from asking about Nanook's scumminess to saying that the two ain't w/w to voting and pushing Dolby as a candidate felt weak at best and not based on her conviction.

Vroe trying to save Gnome with their votes makes the two an almost too obvious scum team.

I continue to be surprised that you are not seeing team equity between me and Vro, either, because I switched to El to save Vro, initially.

**pzelda** · 04-26-2021, 15:15

Originally Posted by Laurentus

I continue to be surprised that you are not seeing team equity between me and Vro, either, because I switched to El to save Vro, initially.

Ok, if you insist I'll go after you, if Gnome flips town.

**Laurentus** · 04-26-2021, 15:16

Originally Posted by pzelda

Ok, if you insist I'll go after you, if Gnome flips town.

Would be nice if your reads are consistent. Both to avoid tunnels and to make your pushes less sus.

**pzelda** · 04-26-2021, 15:22

Originally Posted by Laurentus

Would be nice if your reads are consistent. Both to avoid tunnels and to make your pushes less sus.

I'm far too consistent this game for my liking this game. I almost feel like I might be stuck with wrong reads. But you can take a look at my tiers from yesterday. Gnome and Vroe were at the bottom. I admit I need to reread the second half of d2 to clean up my townreads (more or less everyone else at this point).

I also should check your reasons for saving Vroe.

**Winston Hughes** · 04-26-2021, 17:14

Originally Posted by pzelda

Unfortunately for him I used it n1 to peek Winston and tonight I got result that he's Umenses.

So what you're saying is that you're the Infiltrator?

**Laurentus** · 04-26-2021, 15:07

Originally Posted by pzelda

tbh, this feels like a wolf potentially saving another wolf. Would prefer GG and casting a vote on El is a striking contradiction.

Meh, I deferred to Dolby's judgement myself yesterday, so I am surprised you aren't doing a similar callout to me, especially after how gung-ho I was about killing HK. But a solid point nonetheless.

**pzelda** · 04-26-2021, 15:13

Originally Posted by Laurentus

Meh, I deferred to Dolby's judgement myself yesterday, so I am surprised you aren't doing a similar callout to me, especially after how gung-ho I was about killing HK. But a solid point nonetheless.

I think your case was different. And I said that I was unhappy when you moved from forming reads and started playing real time. But your posts after that movement looked like you were really trying to figure out alignments of people you interacted with.